It's true if you're ignoring context and expectation i suppose but then I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that...
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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It's true if you're ignoring context and expectation i suppose but then I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that...
Does this system get the best out of any of our players? You'd think at least one player would benefit from this system, right?
Back up where? Mid table... great... this squad isn't good enough and unless reinforcements arrive next season we will be marginally better due to new manager hopefully being more of a pragmatist. If you think this squad is top six, I'll have some of what you're smoking!!!
If those options dry up where do we go though... left field weirdo's is all we'll have left...
It's not ignoring any context or expectations.
It's dealing with the facts. the context and expectations you are mentioning are convenient ways to distract from the fact that sport is about winning.
Sure, we all understand that Burnley aren't going to win the PL the season they are promoted but what is the point in getting promoted to the PL if the goal isn't to eventually win it?
If they avoid relegation they have achieved an objective on their path to winning the PL. if their only objective is to be in the PL then what's the fucking point?
We already gained that supposed prestige under Poch, where did that get us? Are we respected as a club for it? Not sure about you but I don't feel like I support a club that is respected.
If we'd won a league cup and a Europa League during the Poch years but never made that CL Final we'd be much better off for it right now. Especially in terms of respect.
Just about to have lunch..might leave it for a bit!!
What staggers me is that Aus based yids are in line with what most of you in the UK are thinking about AP. The patriotism is no longer relevant. He's not cut for the job.
yet Aus based fans from other clubs defend him still, and not in a laugh at spurs by defending the coach kind of way. Genuine patriotism. The guy isn't the issue, Spurs as a club have fucked him over.
Where that falls down is that Levy and ENIC have owned us for nearly a quarter of a century, and since 2008 managers here have got us European qualification nearly every season. Including Jose and Conte who expect more than just that.
So to be 16th, having lost over half our league games for the first time since 1934 has our woes this season firmly on the man in the managers position. How my countrymen can defend him. ENIC aren't why we're 16th and falling further. Ange Postecoglou is the reason.
yet Aus based fans from other clubs defend him still, and not in a laugh at spurs by defending the coach kind of way. Genuine patriotism. The guy isn't the issue, Spurs as a club have fucked him over.
Where that falls down is that Levy and ENIC have owned us for nearly a quarter of a century, and since 2008 managers here have got us European qualification nearly every season. Including Jose and Conte who expect more than just that.
So to be 16th, having lost over half our league games for the first time since 1934 has our woes this season firmly on the man in the managers position. How my countrymen can defend him. ENIC aren't why we're 16th and falling further. Ange Postecoglou is the reason.
Ah, I see what you're up to.
An elegant sleight of hand.
So, after 18 months of remorselessly shilling for Ange and watching us plummet ever further down the table, you're now repackaging yourself as an arch-pragmatist, so you can laud an EL win as evidence of you having backed the right man.
Under a different manager he'd still be a cunt with the stamina of an obese 12yo.
Who finished second in EPL and CL 5 years ago?
The ironic thing is that this is also the first season where Levy has really been under scrutiny from some astute folk in the media. There's long been a narrative that us fans aren't grateful for all that he has given us. Now they're seeing that Levy is not running this club with the attention to detail that elite football clubs need in order to challenge for the top prizes. He's now recognised as the head honcho of a filthy rich company that fleeces fans who are paying a premium to sit in his entertainment venue but watch little that can be called entertaining.
I can see why Levy hired Ange and unfortunately I can see why he hasn't fired him. Toxic little wanker.
Eh?
Always said the same thing about winning.
Is that what everyone is so afraid of? Spurs winning the EL proving them wrong about Ange?
I can tell you now, I'd be too busy celebrating after the biggest success for this club in 40 years. Making a snide post to say I was right and you were wrong would be the last thing on my mind.
Fwiw, I would sack him even if we did win it. Not sure I believe the club will but I don't see him continuing at this club.
But after Ange I don't want to go back to some Nuno/Conte/Jose type that is supposedly pragmatic to win because that doesn't win at this club. You need an attacking manager who plays football that Spurs fans like watching if you want them to get enough patience to even stand a chance of ever winning here.
This is a load of mental gymnastics.
Nope. The goal of sport is to win. Everything else is mental gymnastics.
In fairness 22 year old Dier was a lot more mobile than the 31 year old we see today.
But he had a decent football brain. After the season he got all the injuries he never really looked the same against physically.
But as with most of that squad, Poch got the most out of him and improved him.
Okay I'll refer to my previous emoji then
Good job. It’s a great emoji and everyone agrees.