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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
The question has to be: Is Ange the right manager to put Tottenham in a position to be challenging for the EPL championship in the next five years?

Further, a relevant question is: is Ange the right manager to develop Spurs' youth to be championship contending in their prime in five years?

I think the answer is fairly clear, irrespective of what happens tonight. He's had plenty of time to show what he can do in the league and in terms of development, and he has not shown it. We've been far more patient with him than most other managers (learning from our mistakes in the past). He's had enough time.
 
MCSpurs said:
You know, I actually think Ange will keep his job if Spurs win tonight. Here's my thinking.

We're a fickle lot and even when we lose to a bottom club, the next win and we're all happy again. The mood after a win tonight will make us forget the league - it's done now, anyway.

We'll be in the CL and it's a fresh start next season. Sacking Ange will be yet another confirmed Levy managerial failure. And if he wins this trophy, he'll technically be the most successful Spurs manager in years - just can't see Levy sacking him if we win. Imagine congratulating Ange in landing a European trophy, with his P45. I think he'd get a decent transfer window and all finger crossed for a good start in the league. If we win.

If we lose tonight, Ange is gone, either tomorrow or after the Brighton game (most likely).
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No chance he gets sacked if we win. He might walk himself though. Players still love him, not sure the armchair fans appreciate this. That's the reason we got this far and why we will probably win (with support of the fans as well).
 
Samisspurs said:
No chance he gets sacked if we win. He might walk himself though. Players still love him, not sure the armchair fans appreciate this. That's the reason we got this far and why we will probably win (with support of the fans as well).
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I don't care if the players love him more than their own fathers, he's led us to 17th in the league and no cup win should ever fucking make up for that to a sensible, logical person.

What's the reason United got this far? Their love for Amorim? That or because its inherently a weak competition and allows you easier targets than the premier league?
 
Huge night for the club and us fans, we have my two grandsons coming round tonight one of whom is 16 today.
Have told him that, we will win tonight and for my dad who i lost last summer this one is for you both.
 
Deuterz said:
I don't care if the players love him more than their own fathers, he's led us to 17th in the league and no cup win should ever fucking make up for that to a sensible, logical person.

What's the reason United got this far? Their love for Amorim? That or because its inherently a weak competition and allows you easier targets than the premier league?
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You’re one of those people that like finishing second to fifth but never winning anything, and see that as success then…

Yeh let’s downplay the achievement of making the Europa league final for both teams shall we, because it’s not up to the standards of the most competitive football league in the world.
 
ultima64 said:
You’re one of those people that like finishing second to fifth but never winning anything, and see that as success then…

Yeh let’s downplay the achievement of making the Europa league final for both teams shall we, because it’s not up to the standards of the most competitive football league in the world.
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Fuck me, the mental gymnastics people are doing on here for this guy are crazy.

We are going to finish 17th (!!!) in the league. The league is always your barometer of progress, your comparison up against your domestic peers who have similar resources to you. Lots of poor teams have won cups and will continue to win cups because you have to win many less games. West Ham were "european champions" five minutes ago and Rangers were a shootout from winning this same competition. Are they well coached, good football teams?

It's not about what I'd prefer. Winning the EL might be preferable to me (as its a trophy) but it doesn't represent the coach doing a good job. Amorim has literally said this.

There's a reason 16th and 17th in England are both finalists for this competition. I know saying this hurts your feelies but its a fact. None of which changes the desire to win it, or the fact it would be great to win it, but I don't feel the need to make it something it is not in order to achieve those things.
 
If spurs win tonight

Qualified for champions league
Won a cup ending a long drought.

If 17th position was presented to you but the above was guaranteed you'd take it hands down. Its time to win something
 
Tony Prawns said:
If we win, despite how you feel about him now, I think Ange will become a club hero. His sentiment amongst fans is at an all time low. But in hindsight I think some will look back at his naivety and call it sheer determination. The guy is a professional bullshitter, maybe one of the best of all time, but I think the history books will call him a hard working dreamer, who through grit and guts got a PL job and took Spurs to a European final. Yes, he is an over-achiever way out of his depth and I want him gone next season, but you have to admire the journey. Just look at the timeline.... Mourinho, Conte, Postecoglou...... he's such an unlikely candidate to give us the trophy we so crave. This situation is absolutely bonkers, he couldn't be more up against the wall. And I wouldn't put it past him to pull it off, I think he's that sort of person. I think he thrives on proving people wrong
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The next guy to win us a major European trophy will 100% become a legend , I don’t really like the guy but if he gets us over the line tonight he fully deserves to walk into that press room with his cock out , dump the trophy on the table and say “what the fuck did I tell you about my second season” :ange-arms:
 
Deuterz said:
Fuck me, the mental gymnastics people are doing on here for this guy are crazy.

We are going to finish 17th (!!!) in the league. The league is always your barometer of progress, your comparison up against your domestic peers who have similar resources to you. Lots of poor teams have won cups and will continue to win cups because you have to win many less games. West Ham were "european champions" five minutes ago and Rangers were a shootout from winning this same competition. Are they well coached, good football teams?

It's not about what I'd prefer. Winning the EL might be preferable to me (as its a trophy) but it doesn't represent the coach doing a good job. Amorim has literally said this.

There's a reason 16th and 17th in England are both finalists for this competition. I know saying this hurts your feelies but its a fact. None of which changes the desire to win it, or the fact it would be great to win it, but I don't feel the need to make it something it is not in order to achieve those things.
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Yes 100% finishing 17th is shit and inexcusable , however in a few years time if we do happen to win it tonight we won’t remember 17th we will just remember that Ange always wins in his second season .
 
Fattynomates said:
Yes 100% finishing 17th is shit and inexcusable , however in a few years time if we do happen to win it tonight we won’t remember 17th we will just remember that Ange always wins in his second season .
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Yeah that's great .... and the dickhead that is Ange can rub one out to that every night if he likes, while managing Sydney FC or whatever.

As long as he isn't here.
 
Deuterz said:
Yeah that's great .... and the dickhead that is Ange can rub one out to that every night if he likes, while managing Sydney FC or whatever.

As long as he isn't here.
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Yeah I want him gone regardless but I’ll happily accept him as a “legend” if it means we win the EL tonight. It would be a fitting way to break the “Spursy” curse by the worst manager winning us our first trophy in years, any way let’s get the trophy out the way first then worry about the future
 
Fattynomates said:
Yeah I want him gone regardless but I’ll happily accept him as a “legend” if it means we win the EL tonight. It would be a fitting way to break the “Spursy” curse by the worst manager winning us our first trophy in years, any way let’s get the trophy out the way first then worry about the future
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He definitely wouldn't be a legend imo, it's not the champions league or premier league ...

He'd have cult hero status, probably, and I wouldn't bemoan it too much because ultimately he broke our duck and it makes sense.
 
Fattynomates said:
Yes 100% finishing 17th is shit and inexcusable , however in a few years time if we do happen to win it tonight we won’t remember 17th we will just remember that Ange always wins in his second season .
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Why would you forget finishing 17th? Unless you have dementia or Alzheimer’s. It’s not really something you can just forget if you’re actually invested in being a fan. I can remember almost all our league positions over the last few years, why would I forget this one?
 
Fucking state of the railway in this country.
Get to Euston in plenty time for the 1330 train and they’ve fucking cancelled it.
So I’m now waiting around to see if the 1430 is running in the full knowledge that if it is, it will be rammed full.
Absolute wankers.
 
Deuterz said:
Fuck me, the mental gymnastics people are doing on here for this guy are crazy.

We are going to finish 17th (!!!) in the league. The league is always your barometer of progress, your comparison up against your domestic peers who have similar resources to you. Lots of poor teams have won cups and will continue to win cups because you have to win many less games. West Ham were "european champions" five minutes ago and Rangers were a shootout from winning this same competition. Are they well coached, good football teams?

It's not about what I'd prefer. Winning the EL might be preferable to me (as its a trophy) but it doesn't represent the coach doing a good job. Amorim has literally said this.

There's a reason 16th and 17th in England are both finalists for this competition. I know saying this hurts your feelies but its a fact. None of which changes the desire to win it, or the fact it would be great to win it, but I don't feel the need to make it something it is not in order to achieve those things.
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Please for one day can you just get behind the team?

Its the day of the final and your ranting away on the Ange Postecoglou thread. Just get behind the team and manager today. We don't make many finals. We need to embrace this.

You are probably right about Ange. You were probably right all along. You'll get your credit and your brownie points at the end of the season on here. But please just get behind the team today and only focus on the final tonight. We don't need constant negativity on the forum today. We have a huge game tonight and that is all that matters for the next 8 hours. Forget about everything else. Please.
 
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