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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I hated him when we lose and wanted him out badly. But who wouldn't reacted badly? Poch, Mourinho, Conte - they all had their share of bad outbursts.

I find him arrogant with his bullish snaps. But then you see all the social media reactions from our players now - Madders gave back a lot to those doubters, Porro laughed it off the criticism that he couldn't defend, and even Johnson posted an IG story with Son captioned "fucking spursy". So perhaps it turns out everyone in the club was bullish but only Ange could front that all, until we won.

I thought he had no plan B. But last night was the masterclass of parking the bus that worked.

He wanted to change our culture and mentality, and was making the fans very divisive. Yet we all, mostly I guess, celebrated the win so wildly yesterday and leave many of us crying. The rebuild was painful - it could well be more painful in the coming days, but we could well be winning more too.

He fucking won us the European title. He won me back. I'm back to Ange in. Give him the new season.

On a personal note, I am clear.

Once Sunday is out of the way,then back onto this, and with my reasoning.

For now, I don't care.
 
I hated him when we lose and wanted him out badly. But who wouldn't reacted badly? Poch, Mourinho, Conte - they all had their share of bad outbursts.

I find him arrogant with his bullish snaps. But then you see all the social media reactions from our players now - Madders gave back a lot to those doubters, Porro laughed it off the criticism that he couldn't defend, and even Johnson posted an IG story with Son captioned "fucking spursy". So perhaps it turns out everyone in the club was bullish but only Ange could front that all, until we won.

I thought he had no plan B. But last night was the masterclass of parking the bus that worked.

He wanted to change our culture and mentality, and was making the fans very divisive. Yet we all, mostly I guess, celebrated the win so wildly yesterday and leave many of us crying. The rebuild was painful - it could well be more painful in the coming days, but we could well be winning more too.

He fucking won us the European title. He won me back. I'm back to Ange in. Give him the new season.
To be fair, he's done something at Spurs that 30 other managers didn't do going back to 1984. And only 1 other manager under Levy has won a trophy, so it also shuts up all the jokers about trophies and trophy cabinets. That's lots of jokes and crap we don't have to take now. If winning trophies was easy at Spurs, we wouldn't have been where we are.

Yes, 17th is terrible, but the context was injuries and then protecting everyone from getting injured (and even that didn't work as our injury record is terrible) for the cup final. We have a goal difference that is aligned to 10th not 17th, and a goals scored that is up there with the best. Losing our whole defence for weeks was part of the problem, and having to play all those youngsters, that were meant for the future. It's not all Ange's fault.

Let's remember that under Wenger, the scum didn't win ANY European trophies. It's not a given.
 
It will be to avoid being sacked. Because if he stays from day one he’ll be fighting a battle to prove he should still be here. That will overshadow everything. Look at his press conference even after winning the trophy, he’s still making defensive comments about himself and his ability. That won’t stop next year either.

Personally, I think he will stay on the basis that why would he quit when he can get sacked and get a bigger payout. Plus the club won’t want the negative PR that goes with sacking a manager who won a trophy.
If Postecoglou is retained at least the questions about him and his system get answered and the fan base won't be so divided. I think the trophy will buy him that opportunity. I don't like it, but that's the reality.
 
I hated him when we lose and wanted him out badly. But who wouldn't reacted badly? Poch, Mourinho, Conte - they all had their share of bad outbursts.

I find him arrogant with his bullish snaps. But then you see all the social media reactions from our players now - Madders gave back a lot to those doubters, Porro laughed it off the criticism that he couldn't defend, and even Johnson posted an IG story with Son captioned "fucking spursy". So perhaps it turns out everyone in the club was bullish but only Ange could front that all, until we won.

I thought he had no plan B. But last night was the masterclass of parking the bus that worked.

He wanted to change our culture and mentality, and was making the fans very divisive. Yet we all, mostly I guess, celebrated the win so wildly yesterday and leave many of us crying. The rebuild was painful - it could well be more painful in the coming days, but we could well be winning more too.

He fucking won us the European title. He won me back. I'm back to Ange in. Give him the new season.
And after last nights win i never even contemplated it until Gareth Bale said that we dont have to wait that long until the super cup spurs vs Inter/PSG
Its another crack at silverware and Ange has earned the right to take us there
 
When has Postecoglou ever accepted responsibility for results? Oh, he might say "this is unacceptable" but that's followed by a line of excuses that never address the problems on the pitch. As for players adoring him, some probably do. But it is rare that a player will publicly say anything negative about a manager until after they leave. Yes, there has been attacking football, but in a system that leaves Spurs exposed defensively. That is not the Spurs way. The last part is true to the extent that any trophy is a major trophy.
 
What utter nonsense. Truth be told, I couldn’t care less about Champions League football. You think playing in the Group Stage would give any of us more joy than what we experienced last night? It’s a bonus that is only good financially, but that’s about it.
If playing in the CL is utter nonsense why is CL footy one of the demands of quality targets then?
CL is the biggest stage in football outside of the WC play-offs. Just ask any (top) player. It's not just a financial bonus for players but a stage where they can highlight and spotlight their talent.
 
CL is a real competition compared to EL. I agree with you. EL is lower grade comp than even english league cup (because you eventually play real prem heavyweights). 2019 was a much bigger footballing achievement than the EL cup we won yesterday, no question about it.

Glad everyone is having good time, but they shouldn’t get carried away, and should try to maintain some perspective.

Champions of Europe? Champions of Europe Junior League is what it really is. I don’t think we beat a single CL team all season.

Apart from City Twice and Liverpool?
 
If playing in the CL is utter nonsense why is CL footy one of the demands of quality targets then?
CL is the biggest stage in football outside of the WC play-offs. Just ask any (top) player. It's not just a financial bonus for players but a stage where they can highlight and spotlight their talent.
It might ne for the players, but I’m not a player. I’m a fan. And as a fan, I’d take winning the Europa League every day of the fucking week over just participating in the CL and going out to AC Milan.
 
Great trophy win but I won't be blinded by our league form better teams know how to play us and win we are easy to play against while I get sentimentality I would hate to write off next season by November. It wasn't a great game yesterday and I see nothing to suggest we will improve next season by dominating games. Still doesn't change the fact last night was the greatest night ever though at least for me supporting spurs but I won't be blinded by sentiment
 
After his comments in the presser after, I think he will get the start of the season. If we are still playing like shit in the league he will get the Nuno treatment
 
CL is a real competition compared to EL. I agree with you. EL is lower grade comp than even english league cup (because you eventually play real prem heavyweights). 2019 was a much bigger footballing achievement than the EL cup we won yesterday, no question about it.

Glad everyone is having good time, but they shouldn’t get carried away, and should try to maintain some perspective.

Champions of Europe? Champions of Europe Junior League is what it really is. I don’t think we beat a single CL team all season.

Yeah that's ridiculous lmao
 
hahahhahahha
HAHHAHAHHAHAHHA

More of an achievement to lose.

So according to your logic, losing the 2019 champions league final, is our greatest achievement since 1960/1961?

:porrosmile:
Ask any player what they would prefer and you'll get the answer.
In case you didn't know, it's far tougher to get into a CL final than to win the EL.
Bodø-Glimt were in the EL ...because they lost to Red Star in last CL qualification round. Red Star didn't make it out of the CL group stage.
Besides, your logic is based on wrong assumptions: when Spurs won the UEFA the previous times the UEFA was actually considered almost hard to win as the then European cup. So winning the UEFA back then was much more of an achievement than now.
 
Ask any player what they would prefer and you'll get the answer.
In case you didn't know, it's far tougher to get into a CL final than to win the EL.
Bodø-Glimt were in the EL ...because they lost to Red Star in last CL qualification round. Red Star didn't make it out of the CL group stage.
Besides, your logic is based on wrong assumptions: when Spurs won the UEFA the previous times the UEFA was actually considered almost hard to win as the then European cup. So winning the UEFA back then was much more of an achievement than now.
Ah yes, Son’s interviews over the past few days stated very clearly that he was more proud of losing the final than he was winning last night. That’s absolutely why he said he wasn’t a club legend until then.

Your opinion is both idiotic and objectively wrong.
 
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