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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
By fought strongly, I mean full-strength teams. In the past we've seen managers throw competitions away (domestic cups) in favour of other competitions, but Ange has made a serious effort in all of them.


We did get to a domestic cup semi final.

It isn't really a well-kept secret that Serie A is played at a relatively slow pace and isn't particularly competitive. Both of those things factor heavily. The PL is renown for being, basically, 38 games of intense fitness with no such thing as 'upsets' or 'surprise' results, such is the competition across at least 17 of the teams.


I think the idea that the league was 'sacrificed' would be a poor excuse for just plain old crap league form and tactics. There's no evidence to support any intent. Only factor, really, has been injuries. Outside of that it's just naivety from Ange, and being consistent enough in game plan to be figured out on a weekly basis.



Timo hasn't been thrown under the bus - he's been sleeping under it all season. Really like the guy - he comes across so nice - and wanted to keep him this season, but he's looked worse than Njie and Nkoudou ever did (which is a low).
I think you're conflating "blame" here for observation and tough love. He is supposed to be one of our highest paid and best players and has looked like an academy reject.

Bissouma said the exact same thing recently, in that he never blames the players for the defeats. Its night and day compared to Conte/Mourinho/Poch.
Flat-earther waffle.

I'm not even gonna dignify that with a proper response cause you obviously don't care about the truth or facts.
 
F’me. Won a trophy, in CL and still f’n miserable c#nts whining. Shameful
This is who we are. The week after a miserable defeat, we'd beat Southampton, and everyone cheers up and all is forgiven - we're a top team now. Spurs fans are happy or miserable on a week-to-week basis. If Ange stays, it'll be "Ange Out" the first time we lose. If he goes, the new manager will be a failure if he doesn't win something, because he 'wasn't as good as Ange".

There's no satisfying us, is there?
 

Lol go and look at the results in the league at the end of the 2019 season once the CL became the priority...

We won 3 from our last 12 games

The reason Ajax felt better was because of the comeback. If we had won that 1-0 in a boring game there is no way winning that semi final would have felt as good. We snatched victory from the jaws of defeat and yeah it was insane and felt incredible but you have to separate the feeling of winning when we were all, at half time in that game certain we were out to simply winning a trophy
 
Lol go and look at the results in the league at the end of the 2019 season once the CL became the priority...

We won 3 from our last 12 games

The reason Ajax felt better was because of the comeback. If we had won that 1-0 in a boring game there is no way winning that semi final would have felt as good. We snatched victory from the jaws of defeat and yeah it was insane and felt incredible but you have to separate the feeling of winning when we were all, at half time in that game certain we were out to simply winning a trophy

Some people prefer the feeling of losing to feeling of winning, il never understand it.
 
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For the life of me, I cannot see how appointing someone like Frank could reasonably be seen as an upgrade on Ange. His senior managerial career consists of managing Brondby and Brentford. He's won nothing. When Brentford had an injury crisis they finished 16th.

Whatever you think of Ange, and his managerial experience before joining us, he has won trophies everywhere he has gone.

He has brought us a European trophy. That is more than Conte, Mourinho, Poch, Redknapp etc did.

If Ange is let go, I can accept that. Our league form under him has been awful this season. I think it would be a mistake, but I can see why it could happen.

I do not see Frank as an upgrade at all. Having said that, if it happens, I support my club and I will support my club's manager because I want us to do well.
 
I reckon Ange bought himself some time... 10 more games?
Pre-Exit interview: "Ange, whats you style of play and tactics for EPL matches next season..... low line for EPL- High line for CL"
"Ange - what are your match/game management like next season? player rotation?"
"Ange- what are injury mitigation plans for next season...? no more injury prone inverted FBs""
 
For the life of me, I cannot see how appointing someone like Frank could reasonably be seen as an upgrade on Ange. His senior managerial career consists of managing Brondby and Brentford. He's won nothing. When Brentford had an injury crisis they finished 16th.

Whatever you think of Ange, and his managerial experience before joining us, he has won trophies everywhere he has gone.

He has brought us a European trophy. That is more than Conte, Mourinho, Poch, Redknapp etc did.

If Ange is let go, I can accept that. Our league form under him has been awful this season. I think it would be a mistake, but I can see why it could happen.

I do not see Frank as an upgrade at all. Having said that, if it happens, I support my club and I will support my club's manager because I want us to do well.

I'm not particularly sold on Frank either - but i think if Ange had Brentford's resources, in the Premier League, he'd get them relegated.
 
Winning the other night has definitely muddied the waters in terms of a choice to replace Ange .If we had lost absolutely anybody almost would have been seen as an improvement. I can't disregard the league form and wish he would ride off into the sunset but I have no real preference who to replace him .Levy has plenty to think about .
 
We got smoked by prem sides all year long- even with our first choice players available. Why would we do better in the FA cup then? The EL is pretty much the only cup we could have really won based on our form vs other Prem sides NOT named man utd or that were relegated.

Not entirely true. Our win % when Vic, Porro, Cuti, VDV and Udogie ALL start would have us comfortably in Top 4.

They just very rarely all started in the league together.

However they did all start in the final 5 games of the UEL - which we ended up winning.
 

had a little watch of that, hes a football scientist compared to ange. i just wonder if frank has the charisma for a top job. ange is obviously a monkey compared to him when it comes to the science of the game, but he can get players fired up for the occasional big game, do you think frank has that ability too? i think you need a bit of raw emotion in football at times.

theres no doubt about it that hes a big upgrade (not hard). but i do feel we really need to get this one right now, weve got a huge lifeline here. the next manager has to be the perfect appointment.
 
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For the life of me, I cannot see how appointing someone like Frank could reasonably be seen as an upgrade on Ange. His senior managerial career consists of managing Brondby and Brentford. He's won nothing. When Brentford had an injury crisis they finished 16th.

Whatever you think of Ange, and his managerial experience before joining us, he has won trophies everywhere he has gone.

He has brought us a European trophy. That is more than Conte, Mourinho, Poch, Redknapp etc did.

If Ange is let go, I can accept that. Our league form under him has been awful this season. I think it would be a mistake, but I can see why it could happen.

I do not see Frank as an upgrade at all. Having said that, if it happens, I support my club and I will support my club's manager because I want us to do well.
What type of manager would you see as an upgrade?
 
What Ange has also done is bought belief from the players. The impact of this is hard to quantify, but he said they would win if they trusted him. I’m sure it has galvanised the squad. I don’t know how this translates into performances but it’s a critical ingredient in any successful team.
 
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