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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Spurs were without a major trophy for nearly 20 years and had become a running joke. Our talisman Son has gone his entire career without a trophy.

We had to sacrifice the league campaign in order to focus on the brining a trophy to Spurs - with 100% certainty.

NET RESULT

1 Major Trophy.
A UNITED Squad, who have now tasted success. These players will give 100% to do it again.
2 fingers stuck right up Woolwich's Arse.
Our best players want to stay (Romero/Porro).

Ask yourself this. Had we finished 4th or 5th - would any of the above statements be true?

I wonder how many double and treble winners sacrificed their league position to win Trophies since the PL was formed?

This piece of fiction only came to light, from Ange and no one else at the club.

So tell me this, we will be in the CL next season, so according to your theory, we will hover around fifteenth, sixteenth or seventeenth and you will welcome another twenty odd PL losses?

Winning a Trophy is all well and good, but like it or not we were fucking terrible when playing in the PL and this form hit us last year long before we were out of the group stages of the EL.

Averaging around one point per game isn't a "sacrifice" it's the ineptitude of the manager, and this won't change next season.
 
This isn't out of the blue. It's been on the cards all of 2025. I'll relent on an argument that DL didn't fancy his winter options and wanted to see the managerial market in the summer. But the longer this is left, the less time we have to plan and prepare for next season.

Before you know it, deadline day will be here and we've panicked into buying Chris Wood from Nott'm Forest for £70m.
 
It’s the signing of players I worry about with Ange. I’m sure he wants Tel to stay and I reckon we will do like we did with turbo. Next week or so it will be announced. Instead of spending the money on the Brentford lads like wide or mbuoe or even eze who Ange didn’t wa t last summer.

If he wants to keep Tel, that just shows the ability of the idiot to judge a player.

Another load of money down the shitter.
 

If he stays, this guy will take the victory lap.

If the opposite happens and they let him go... This will be the tweet will happen almost verbatim.

"Late text last night informing me that the club have changed their mind. They were tempted to carry on with Ange but a last minute change of heart......" blah blah blah

Twitter "ITK's".. Utter chancers. To a man.
 
That’s because they haven’t watched a season and a half of absolute shite. If it was their own club they’d feel differently like most of our sane fans do.
Like I said in my previous post, I can see both sides - just being 17th doesn't tell the whole story, we have been absolute garbage but he has also done something that Poch, Jose & Conte failed to do and that is actually win us a trophy.
 
I’m sure they are talking to other managers right now, if the right candidate wants to come then no doubt Ange will be gone. Levy is just waiting for the euphoria to wear off.

That defeat to Brighton on Sunday probably helped focus a lot of minds. The players were hungover and didn’t give a toss but the performance still looked the same as our usual shit displays. It’s quite damning for Ange that there wasn’t any difference between the team performance after being on the booze for 3 days straight and say, the performance at home to Leicester.

I can't see that Venkatesham will be doing handstands and summersaults over keeping the Aussie Fraud.

He will have a big say in this decision, if not the deciding one.
 
Like I said in my previous post, I can see both sides - just being 17th doesn't tell the whole story, we have been absolute garbage but he has also done something that Poch, Jose & Conte failed to do and that is actually win us a trophy.
And for that what he recieves is tremendous gratitude and a fond place in our history..

However, the position of manager of Tottenham Hotspur is not a little gift that you "deserve" or get to keep because you've earned it,,

It is a position you hold based solely on the criteria that there is a belief within the club that you are the best person to take the team forward.

We know that the club don't think that.. Because if that 90 minutes of football didn't go our way, then he'd have been sacked before getting on the flight back..

The manager himself said in a press conference a month or so ago, that one game of football won't make him a good or a bad manager.. I happen to agree with him.
 
Lol Ange himself has literally been priming Levy/Enic to make a statement with his "season 3" and "I'm not the man to ask about my future" bollocks. No, I don't think we should give him a new contract, I think we should announce his sacking, preferably by the end of this week. If we're not going to though something needs to be communicated unless we want to go the whole way through June reading ITK conjecture and puff pieces from the media on slow news days about potential replacements.

Sorry but you're not that important, I know fans think they are but a statement saying that we're keeping him is just unrealistic, you probably need to set your expectations on this.

If he stays it will come out in the media and guess what you'll know we're keeping him or not because he'll be the man in the seat in preseason, that's kinda how things work.
 
Very few managers have left us for greater things, which might mean we get washed/crap managers, or that they never recover from us :levyeyes:


How many can we name? I'm totally, 110% NOT accepting Poch winning the John Deere Ligue 1 or the Fertilizer Cup in france as some evidence of success, but I'm looking at Redknapp, AVB, Jose.
I mean you could argue Conte has carried on as he was, but he does tend to have a rule that he'll only manage a club that will buy the league
I mean Redknapp was 65 years old when he left Spurs. And Poch showed his quality while he was here.

One stick you cannot beat Levy with is a failure to attract top managers to the club, he's hired several terrific ones.

But he's never pursued a manager as passionately as he did Ramos, and with the full benefit of hindsight, there just really wasn't anything there.
 
Sorry but you're not that important, I know fans think they are but a statement saying that we're keeping him is just unrealistic, you probably need to set your expectations on this.

If he stays it will come out in the media and guess what you'll know we're keeping him or not because he'll be the man in the seat in preseason, that's kinda how things work.
Are you suggesting the club will leak to the media that there will be no search for a new manager? Because to that effect they are just putting out a statement through a 3rd party and you acknowledge there is some need for the club to do that at some level.
 
Sorry but you're not that important, I know fans think they are but a statement saying that we're keeping him is just unrealistic, you probably need to set your expectations on this.

If he stays it will come out in the media and guess what you'll know we're keeping him or not because he'll be the man in the seat in preseason, that's kinda how things work.
Yeah no chance we’d get a club statement to say he’s staying, it would be through journalists, they came out after multiple defeats around jan to say club still trusts ange etc.

The fact we’ve not heard that after the Brighton game yet means the decision most likely actually hasn’t been made one way or the other.
 
Are you suggesting the club will leak to the media that there will be no search for a new manager? Because to that effect they are just putting out a statement through a 3rd party and you acknowledge there is some need for the club to do that at some level.
Yeah no chance we’d get a club statement to say he’s staying, it would be through journalists, they came out after multiple defeats around jan to say club still trusts ange etc.

The fact we’ve not heard that after the Brighton game yet means the decision most likely actually hasn’t been made one way or the other.
It's one of those situations showing how English football generally and Spurs specifically would be a lot better off if someone above the manager would regularly speak publicly on behalf of the club.

This is standard operating procedure in American sports, it's bizarre the way PL front office's have no public voice. Our managers constantly complain about having to be the public face of decisions that aren't theirs, and they're absolutely right.
 
I'm for sticking with Ange, mostly as there isn't anyone I really want that's available. Most of the managers mentioned are mediocre from my point of view and potentially just as risky. Get a few new players in of a proper PL standard and see how he goes.
 
The time for a statement that he was staying would have been yesterday following season end, Levy is probably undecided. But I don't buy this load of nonsense that detailed reviews will be taking place and they'll be up to their eyeballs in meetings on the subject etc. They were going to sack him as soon as we crashed out of Europa, and nothing has taken place to Ange's credit but for the Final.

It could be that Levy still intends to sack him but wants to let the emotions die down. Surely our limp performance, typical of the whole era, on Sunday will help remind some of who Ange is.

It could also mean that Levy is genuinely undecided, which is disheartening in the extreme if he considers writing next year off on the chance Ange will suddenly be someone he's not, a PL manager.

It could also mean Paratici will be handed the decision, in which case he can't come soon enough.
 
Ange has earnt the right to lay out his plan for next season and have a proper discussion with the board. That doesn't happen the day after the season ends. It will likely be in 3 weeks time.

To be here next season, Ange needs to clearly articulate to leave issues this season and, what he would do to not only improve, but to actually win the premier league.

We would all probably say, next season would be good if we got top 4 and a domestic cup. This won't satisfy Ange, he will want to win The league or champions league. If he's not backed, we may find that he's the one to leave.
 
But I don't buy this load of nonsense that detailed reviews will be taking place and they'll be up to their eyeballs in meetings on the subject etc. They were going to sack him as soon as we crashed out of Europa, and nothing has taken place to Ange's credit but for the Final.
The final didn't change Ange, that's true.

But the final RADICALLY changed the job of Spurs Manager 25/26 (and beyond). Across many domains, financial, fan relations, competitive priorities, managers and players available to us, everything.

It is wise to take a breath to think it over, and also hopefully to have some serious conversations with Ange about what his plans are moving forward.

Now, we're talking about Daniel Levy, all roads will always lead to "spend less money and expect more results", he's going to disappoint us, but within the context of his process he's doing the sensible thing.
 
I'm for sticking with Ange, mostly as there isn't anyone I really want that's available. Most of the managers mentioned are mediocre from my point of view and potentially just as risky. Get a few new players in of a proper PL standard and see how he goes.

I don't think Ange is the way forward at all, but I think that the two best arguments for keeping him is exactly this point and the players still seem to be 100% behind him.
 
Ange has earnt the right to lay out his plan for next season and have a proper discussion with the board. That doesn't happen the day after the season ends. It will likely be in 3 weeks time.

To be here next season, Ange needs to clearly articulate to leave issues this season and, what he would do to not only improve, but to actually win the premier league.

We would all probably say, next season would be good if we got top 4 and a domestic cup. This won't satisfy Ange, he will want to win The league or champions league. If he's not backed, we may find that he's the one to leave.
We require a shed load of elite players to challenge for either the PL or CL. That isn’t accomplished in one window!
 
Honestly??
Look, i'm not particularly Ange in, but their players are nowhere near as fragile as ours have been this past season particularly our centre backs.....🤷‍♂️
Just think its horses for courses. Ange caried on playing the same kamikaze system which had contributed heavily to the injuries, especially the centre backs, rather than be a bit more conservative. Ange also, in the early part of the season failed to rotate effectively also contributing to injuries and players being dead on their feet (see Udogie and Kulu etc). Ange also claimed at the start of the season that the squad was good enough for this season (I know Levy probably contributed to this by doing what he always does and leave the team short) which it wasn't.
 
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