I've wanted him out during the season, but if we sack him without at least giving him the first few games of next season, we'll be back to being the laughing stock we were before the EL win.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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And if it doesn't work out ...Spurs will also be a laughing stock.
Either you stick to Angelos or not because brining in a new head-coach in the middle of the season is not a good idea (yes, I know, there are cases of it working out on the short run).
He won us a major trophy, that's more than those previously had done for a while.
The language before the final was not like this.
Unbelievable, some have been seduced by those that write for the mastheads who fucking hate us!
If he gets another year, back him, like the squad will, don't try and tear him down.
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I think it's reasonable to conclude that managers who will adjust tactics to our player availability, to our available player's strengths and weaknesses, and to those of our opponents would collect quite a few more points in any given week. Over the course of two seasons through training, a competent man could have had us modestly organized in defense and not so awful on set pieces and those alone would have created significant points.
Where in the table this year could a manager like Glasner, Frank, Iraola etc have had us? Who can say, but I suppose we have to start with where their position in the table ended up being. They were working with a talent level not far off from ours during injury crisis, and some of those clubs had crises of their own. We could at least have been near where they themselves finished this year.
Who cares about being a laughing stock? We shouldn't play to the press or rival fans.. They'll always shit talk us.. There is only the right decision and the wrong decision for the future of the club. I don't know for sure what that is (I know what I think it is). But how it appears, or what is deemed to be good and proper behaviour should not be a flicker in the mind of those making the decision.
Celtic under Ange had the same issues with hamstring injuries' he admitted that here:
Ange Postecoglou admits his Celtic training demands can bring injuries
Kyogo Furuhashi and Albian Ajeti both limped off with injuries in the win over Real Betis.
We can't have enough player cover when we have eight or nine players out through injury.
However much the fraud is given to spend, he will just break them.
He has to go, the mans a liability to any player we sign.
Talk of Paratici deciding Ange's fate is far from the truth.
Venkatesha will make that decision, he's not been hired to decide on cheese rooms and the style of DJ's plaits.
So these results earlier in the season were just the players performing in spite of Ange? But dropped points against Ipswich and Leicester Ange’s fault?
Everton 4-0
Brentford 3-1
West Ham 4-1
Man C 2-1
Villa 4-1
Man C 4-0
We were 19 pts from 12 games with double figure gd. That’s equivalent of 60 pts over the season. Then December hits and a ton of injuries. Then last 7-8 games we rest best players from PL games. They win Europa (players in spite of Ange) .
If you seriously think we have players near the level of PSG you’re seriously delusional. Their players do as much running/sprints as ours if not more. Yet it’s Ange’s fault for the injuries!
I'm definitely not in the cult, I've been Ange out since before Christmas.
It's just the ridiculous comments that have no intellectual worth at all that cause friction between support on here...
'Ange is a fraud', 'Ange is a fat c**t', 'he's a thief', Levy is a bald c**t......
Just nonsensical rantings of people with no intellent conversation.
He never falsified his history to get the position, he never guaranteed a finishing position in the league. The only statement he consistently made was that he ALWAYS wins a trophy in his second season. So it could be argued that he's the opposite of a fraud.
As I've said before, I believe he's tactically naive at this level, the season itself has been unacceptable under his leadership. All I'm saying is that to use the term fraud is factually incorrect and just over-emotional ranting.
I think a lot of people project their own insecurities and shortcomings back onto this forum personally
Did you think we’d win the EL under Ange?
He’s the most likely of all our modern era managers to win us more silverware. Objectively.
If we finish 10th and no trophy of course he has to go. I think the EL earned Ange the chance to show league progress until December. But you do need to give the whole thing completion… for good or bad.
If I recall most on here at start of the season voted for a trophy over a top 4-5 position. The sentiment was that Levy wouldn’t put up the dosh for a CL squad so let’s target a trophy.
Ange delivered, and with that got CL.
FFS there’s some bipolar attitudes here.
Imagine Frank coming in now.
Hiding to nothing doesn’t do it justice.
The anti climax and instant drop in optimism would be seismic. Not his fault, he’s a good coach but that’s how the players would react.
If you think PSG players do anywhere near as much running in their league compared to ours I really don’t know what to say to you.
That’s seriously delusional thinking.
The premier league is way more intense than ligue 1.
So, if Ange The Alpine Mountain Walking Guide leads you off an edge and you plummet down a ravine, you regain consciousness and you say to him, "Okay, if you can get me up 20ft I'll stick with you."
Not sure I have full respect for your decision making skills - or his.
Considering your own posting volume and content, you realise you're a perfect example of this yourself?
We are not a Liverpool / United / Chelsea’ / city who win all trophies available type club. It’s just not us. History shows that.
For years I have been pointing out to the ENIC out crowd on here that since the 90s when we win a trophy we do shit in the league. Is that what we want when we cry “win a trophy!!”
This forum had never existed when we had one of these seasons.
So the season we win a trophy we do shit in the league. And this forum goes insane.
But no surprise there.
People here clearly want their cake, to eat it and then rub it all over their naked bodies.
Nuno V2 levels of excitement. Ditto Glasner and Silva.
Although I have a preference to Glasner, I’m struggling to think of too many names who would fill fans with joy.