the Alternative could have been Play more defensive in the league (once Ange decided to sack off the League) resting the players as he did, that way we may have got 10th (THAT'S NOT 17th) and won the EL
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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4th from top vs 4th from bottom.
It's literally the dictionary definition of 2nd rate.
It's the 2nd of 3 tiers of competition.
It couldn't be any more or less 2nd rate if if tried.
I'm in a real quandary.
Do I put all the lunatic Angebois on ignore, or do I keep foul voting them until admin actually do something?
I'm starting to think Admin are all Angebois too, arguing on his behalf no matter what with that blank look on their face when evidence is presented.
Can we foul vote admin?
Do I put all the lunatic Angebois on ignore, or do I keep foul voting them until admin actually do something?
I'm starting to think Admin are all Angebois too, arguing on his behalf no matter what with that blank look on their face when evidence is presented.
Can we foul vote admin?
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Not really. 2nd rate is wholly negative. 2nd tier is not.
It’s funny. Levy’s idea was that when the dust settles and the emotions of the EL settles down, the league results would make people want Ange sacked
But as always with Levy, he’s completely misunderstood people because now the dust has settled and people are seeing how much more ambition other clubs have for the league, they care less and less about the league form and the significance and timelessness of that EL trophy only gets more and more valuable to us.
But as always with Levy, he’s completely misunderstood people because now the dust has settled and people are seeing how much more ambition other clubs have for the league, they care less and less about the league form and the significance and timelessness of that EL trophy only gets more and more valuable to us.
When it comes to strange, I don't think there is anything unusual in being overjoyed at winning a cup but being very concerned by such a pitiful overall performance in the league. Domestic league performance is the best marker of how good/strong a team actually is and in most other seasons we would have been fighting a relegation battle.
The reason I question Ange's competence at this level is because he was willing to throw his attacking principles out of the window to win the EL with a very decent squad but did not show the same pragmatic, tenacious approach when a lot of our best players were unavailable to stop us sinking in the league. We looked devoid of structure and form for so much of the season. We became easy to beat. His 'we never stop' approach caked away and he was exceptionally poor at adapting to the challenges our B team faced. And folk can argue his case but, as always in football, the results have the final word.
I'll always be grateful to him and the players for getting us the EL trophy - it is what I wanted more than anything, no doubts. But this isn't a game played on one stage. The bread and butter is the PL and we need someone who can navigate us through it at a higher level if we're to maintain our standing as one of the big PL teams.
If Levy shows me the club gives a shit about winning the league then I’ll care about pragmatism from the coach for results.
If not then I’m fine with a coach going hell for leather and trying to entertain in the league
We could win the EL and cups so those more pragmatic performances in knockout football made sense.
The league matches weren't entertaining at all though
It's not like we were going all out and marginally losing 5-4 classics, we were giving away terrible goals and couldn't score.
did you watch that match?
can you talk me through the FIRST MINUTE
I've seen under-11 teams better coached
100% agree with you , my worry is even if Ange isn’t the one , if we appoint Frank we are going back to just wanting Top 4 on minimum spend , like you say we are a rich club ,
We shouldn’t be going for top 4 , we should be going to win the league.
Nah. That's nonsense.
We're a big enough club to win regular trophies without sacking off the league to do it. No way was that the majority sentiment. May have been an odd loser here or there but that's about it, matey.
They were until 75% of our team was out injured.
By that point, any style you play will look shit.
The intent is what I’m talking about
And the issue is he's not capable of managing the squad to keep the players fit
What can I say, I surround myself with sensible, intelligent people!
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Get him a deeper squad and better medical team then.
He did. Didn't make it past the last 16. Which is strange, given that it's such an easy competition to win. Apparently.
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Nah actually it’s not. I can’t be fucked trawling back through pages to quote countless people saying sick of finishing top 4-5 but winning nought.
And big club? Who’ve won zilch in 17 years domestically and nothing European for 40 years. We could be the biggest club in the world, but we still want to win shit.
Granted, Ange needs to be more adaptable, but my entire post was that I believe he’s earned the right to start the season, learn from his mistakes, and see where it gets us. Starting all over again is not the answer RIGHT NOW.