Manager Ange Postecoglou

[Shadydan]

What??...he got sacked for being shit,even with a European trophy.....i mean how shit do you need to be, to win a European trophy that qualifies you for champions league and you still get sacked.

Your saying Anges 18 years of management prior to De Zerbis are worth something.... I dont think they are.

You also think De Zerbi will play similar to Ange like he is some pioneer to the game...when De Zerbi was in prem before Ange

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Yeah...not like this club to sack managers unfairly is it.

You need to stop this charade of putting words in my mouth in order to force some sort of weird angle to argue against, what you also need to do is quit the mental gymnastics, I can't keep up with you.

 

[Shadydan]

Such a success. Sacked.

It’s not the Deuterz prism it’s the football world prism. You jokers want to pretend it’s objectively some huge accomplishment, where were his big job offers then eh? If it was so obviously a mistake to get rid and he’d been a clear success at spurs, why was his only offer from a club fighting the drop owned by his mate?

Shall I tell you the job offers actually successful spurs managers get? PSG. Usually if you succeed at spurs you get a step up not a huge step down.

I’m right you’re wrong and the top clubs in Europe agree with me. Deal with it.

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Poch sacked after getting us to the CL final
Conte sacked for having us in 4th
Jose sacked 6 days before a final

And yet you think it's somehow beyond this club to get things wrong when it comes to retaining managers, ha you naïve little child, how long have you been supporting this club for?

You view things through your own prism and that’s fine, but you’re wrong. This manager has delivered more success at this football club than plenty of others I’ve watched over the years and instead of backing that we’re once again flirting with the same short sighted decisions that have set us back time and time again but sure blame the guy who is responsible for bringing us our first trophy since 2008.

Some backwards logic lmao

 

[McFlash]

Postecoglou is an Immotator

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A what now?!

 

[Skippa18]

Yeah...not like this club to sack managers unfairly is it.

You need to stop this charade of putting words in my mouth in order to force some sort of weird angle to argue against, what you also need to do is quit the mental gymnastics, I can't keep up with you.

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[Phomesy]

There was nothing wrong with thinking that Ange Postecoglou had to face consequences for the 22 losses and 17th place league finish in 24/25.

The problem is not admitting that it was, in hindsight, a dreadful and catastrophic decision that may yet see us relegated.

It is unquestionable that Postecoglou overachieved with this current squad. 5th place and then a European Trophy and League Cup semi-final during an unprecedented injury crisis that ruined our league season last year is quite an incredible achievement in comparison to what has happened subsequently.

This is just simple, rational, observable fact. To deny it is to anoint oneself as irrational.

Now we look forward and hope Roberto De Zerbi can save us from Deranger folly and keep us up. If he does so (and even if he doesn't) we should fully get behind him and hope he can achieve as much, if not more, than Ange Postecoglou did in his time.

COYS!

 

[McFlash]

De Zerbi and Ange are not alike

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Tell that to JDefoe

 

[Skippa18]

A what now?!

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Its quite common in football. Brendan Rodgers is a perfect example.

Follows trends successfully but when things change hes slow to react and then gets sacked takes him a year to get up to speed and hes back.

 

[McFlash]

Its quite common in football. Brendan Rodgers is a perfect example.

Follows trends successfully but when things change hes slow to react and then gets sacked takes him a year to get up to speed and hes back.

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Ah, you meant imitator, I thought you meant immolator.

 

[Deuterz]

Poch sacked after getting us to the CL final
Conte sacked for having us in 4th
Jose sacked 6 days before a final

And yet you think it's somehow beyond this club to get things wrong when it comes to retaining managers, ha you naïve little child, how long have you been supporting this club for?

You view things through your own prism and that’s fine, but you’re wrong. This manager has delivered more success at this football club than plenty of others I’ve watched over the years and instead of backing that we’re once again flirting with the same short sighted decisions that have set us back time and time again but sure blame the guy who is responsible for bringing us our first trophy since 2008.

Some backwards logic lmao

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Poch sacked and got hired by PSG. And he clearly failed at the end of his fucking time here because it went wrong you spoon. But his overall spurs legacy was viewed as a success hence being hired by a European giant.

Conte sacked because he threw tantrums and demanded it and then hired by Napoli, a top European team.

Jose was fucking stinking at spurs, imagine pretending the league cup final changes that.

Ange was overall viewed as failing at Tottenham. Managers viewed as being an overall success at Tottenham don’t find their job opportunities limited to clubs managed by Greeks.

It’s really as simple as this.

 

[Skippa18]

Ah, you meant imitator, I thought you meant immolator.

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Lol forgive me, i thought it looked wrong.

 

[Phomesy]

Another textbook example of the progression of the Deranger disease... We start with wildly optimistic predictions of league position now we're under new management (the "any half-decent manager" formulation)

I expect any European football is the league expectation for Frank with decent player investment.

Did the club not give Postecoglou significant resources to do his job? He won the Europa League after all.

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We will be competing for european places for sure though.

The squad has been boosted with the additions and hopefully we show it on the pitch but not every transfer works out all the time

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As things start to turn sour, the focus returns to the previous manager being shit... and excuses are now made for the new incumbent as if 24/25 wasn't itself an unprecedented injury crisis:

We was in a complete mess last season mate.

So much so that the manager, his staff and the boss/part owner got sacked.

Add in the long term injuries to 3 of our better players for the first ¼ of his first season.

i think he has done ok points wise but performances particularly at home need improving.

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As all hope wanes we might expect a normal, rational, fan to revise their opinion of the Postecoglou era but no....

Yeah its hard to find many positives

I'd say hes more professional in his squad rotations than posetecoglou.

And he can get clean sheets at a huge attacking sacrifice.(just not spurs is it)

Hes a terrible fit for us, its why I never wanted him but was willing to give him time.

Im struggling to see how he turns it around in a performance sense when he is under pressure to get results playing twice a week and without some of our better players available.

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Until, eventually, the Deranger turns on the entire club as a "rancid" mess - but still can't bring themselves to entertain the idea that, actually, maybe the problem wasn't the previous manager at all - but injuries and a squad low on elite quality.

Because to dare is to do, bring someone in give a fresh idea try an rejuvenate the rancid place and try and get a result.

Frank being there is automatically admitting defeat.

Its weak.

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We see this exact same progression over and over with this disease. It clearly targets that part of the brain associated with "common sense" and rationality. The Deranger can never, ever, allow themselves to acknowledge that the problems at Spurs went deeper than any single manager.

It's a tragedy but it IS curable.

COYS!

 

[Skippa18]

Another textbook example of the progression of the Deranger disease... We start with wildly optimistic predictions of league position now we're under new management (the "any half-decent manager" formulation)



As things start to turn sour, the focus returns to the previous manager being shit... and excuses are now made for the new incumbent as if 24/25 wasn't itself an unprecedented injury crisis:



As all hope wanes we might expect a normal, rational, fan to revise their opinion of the Postecoglou era but no....



Until, eventually, the Deranger turns on the entire club as a "rancid" mess - but still can't bring themselves to entertain the idea that, actually, maybe the problem wasn't the previous manager at all - but injuries and a squad low on elite quality.



We see this exact same progression over and over with this disease. It clearly targets that part of the brain associated with "common sense" and rationality. The Deranger can never, ever, allow themselves to acknowledge that the problems at Spurs went deeper than any single manager.

It's a tragedy but it IS curable.

COYS!

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Everything i said there was with context and in reply to a question, i was right at the time i said it and I would most like say the same thing regarding De Zerbi.

Context is key.

You have the ramblings of a delusional fanatic when it comes to Ange Postecoglou.

 

[Shadydan]

Poch sacked and got hired by PSG. And he clearly failed at the end of his fucking time here because it went wrong you spoon. But his overall spurs legacy was viewed as a success hence being hired by a European giant.

Conte sacked because he threw tantrums and demanded it and then hired by Napoli, a top European team.

Jose was fucking stinking at spurs, imagine pretending the league cup final changes that.

Ange was overall viewed as failing at Tottenham. Managers viewed as being an overall success at Tottenham don’t find their job opportunities limited to clubs managed by Greeks.

It’s really as simple as this.

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And yet still doesn't alter my point that they were all sacked by a club who have a poor track record of retaining managers and sacking them at the wrong time.

You're an absolute egg, all your arguments are 'look who hired him after' you're not even addressing his successful stint at Spurs because you're a disingenuous little rat and it ruins your entire desperate narrative about Ange.

As I said I don't give a toss who my managers went onto manage, it's irrelevant...do you know why because I don't fucking support PSG or Nottingham Forest or Roma, not interested and even if you want to push your silly little narrative one of those managers is managing the US National team, so what?...meaningless tripe.

 

[Phomesy]

Everything i said there was with context and in reply to a question, i was right at the time i said it and I would most like say the same thing regarding De Zerbi.

Context is key.

You have the ramblings of a delusional fanatic when it comes to Ange Postecoglou.

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What is "fanatical" about pointing out the simple observable fact that we were much much better off when he was in charge?

5th and a European trophy is better than imminent relegation isn't it? Or do you disagree with that "context".

Anyway let's hope De Zerbi saves us. Maybe you should spend more time worrying about that than whatever it is you're trying to achieve in this thread?

 

[Skippa18]

What is "fanatical" about pointing out the simple observable fact that we were much much better off when he was in charge?

5th and a European trophy is better than imminent relegation isn't it? Or do you disagree with that "context".

Anyway let's hope De Zerbi saves us. Maybe you should spend more time worrying about that than whatever it is you're trying to achieve in this thread?

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Because it wasn't 5th and a European trophy.

It was 5th after dropping like a stone and missing out on champions league Because we couldn't stop the rot.

Then it was 17th and a European trophy, when the 3 teams below us were the worst in the league ever.

We lost 22 games man....its embarrassing.

 

[Shadydan]

Illustrious company

Tottenham Hotspur managers who have won official continental titles throughout history:

Bill Nicholson
— 1971/72 UEFA Europa League
— 1962/63 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup

Keith Burkinshaw
— 1983/84 UEFA Europa League

Ange Postecoglou
— 2024/25 UEFA Europa League

 

[Deuterz]

And yet still doesn't alter my point that they were all sacked by a club who have a poor track record of retaining managers and sacking them at the wrong time.

You're an absolute egg, all your arguments are 'look who hired him after' you're not even addressing his successful stint at Spurs because you're a disingenuous little rat and it ruins your entire desperate narrative about Ange.

As I said I don't give a toss who my managers went onto manage, it's irrelevant...do you know why because I don't fucking support PSG or Nottingham Forest or Roma, not interested and even if you want to push your silly little narrative one of those managers is managing the US National team, so what?...meaningless tripe.

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Almost all managers get sacked lmao, almost all managers dont get sacked immediately after their so called “success” that’s the difference. Jose won at United but was a failure there, so his career downgraded, he then failed here and it downgraded again.

If he had a successful stint at spurs he’d have been viewed as overall a positive impact on a top 6 club lmao, he wasn’t so he got a nice downgrade in job. See how it works?

Pochettino is managing the US because he failed at clubs AFTER spurs you absolute clown.

Top teams saw what Ange did at spurs and said “no fucking thanks” off the back of it. You can cry and whine and fanboy all you want, the list of top teams in his inbox will still be empty because they don’t agree with your narrative.

Stick to hoping people get cancer because they don’t rate a coach you utter virus.

 

[Phomesy]

Illustrious company

Tottenham Hotspur managers who have won official continental titles throughout history:

Bill Nicholson
— 1971/72 UEFA Europa League
— 1962/63 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup

Keith Burkinshaw
— 1983/84 UEFA Europa League

Ange Postecoglou
— 2024/25 UEFA Europa League

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Legends. Unquestionably.

 

[Shadydan]

Almost all managers get sacked lmao, almost all managers dont get sacked immediately after their so called “success” that’s the difference. Jose won at United but was a failure there, so his career downgraded, he then failed here and it downgraded again.

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Boring - you're doing it again...equating other clubs with Tottenham.

Have you not noticed that Spurs are very much unlike other football clubs so I couldn't give a toss what happened at Utd with Jose because it's irrelevant to us. We sack coaches at the wrong time, we literally have a history of it so using that as some sort of slight against Ange is dumb and uber desperate, stop doing it.

If he had a successful stint at spurs he’d have been viewed as overall a positive impact on a top 6 club lmao, he wasn’t so he got a nice downgrade in job. See how it works?

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Nooooope way too simplistic.

Spurs isn’t a normal top 6 job, managers walk into chaos hit a ceiling and then get blamed. We’ve seen it with Poch, Conte, and Jose.

The pattern shows the opposite - good managers always come in and then hit the ceiling and then get judged as if they were responsible for the culture and the environment.

Pochettino is managing the US because he failed at clubs AFTER spurs you absolute clown.

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Top teams saw what Ange did at spurs and said “no fucking thanks” off the back of it. You can cry and whine and fanboy all you want, the list of top teams in his inbox will still be empty because they don’t agree with your narrative.

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Pure assumption on your part, Top clubs don’t make decisions based on one turbulent spell especially at Spurs where the structure has made plenty of good managers look worse than they are. Ange delivered a style, identity, and moments this club has been crying out for including even if results dipped.

Stick to hoping people get cancer because they don’t rate a coach you utter virus.

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You literally the other day said my patents wished they aborted me before you got banned you fucking idiot lol

Check your mirrors

 

[Phomesy]

Because it wasn't 5th and a European trophy.

It was 5th after dropping like a stone and missing out on champions league Because we couldn't stop the rot.

Then it was 17th and a European trophy, when the 3 teams below us were the worst in the league ever.

We lost 22 games man....its embarrassing.

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I'll refer you back to a previous post:

There was nothing wrong with thinking that Ange Postecoglou had to face consequences for the 22 losses and 17th place league finish in 24/25.

The problem is not admitting that it was, in hindsight, a dreadful and catastrophic decision that may yet see us relegated.

It is unquestionable that Postecoglou overachieved with this current squad. 5th place and then a European Trophy and League Cup semi-final during an unprecedented injury crisis that ruined our league season last year is quite an incredible achievement in comparison to what has happened subsequently.

This is just simple, rational, observable fact. To deny it is to anoint oneself as irrational.

Now we look forward and hope Roberto De Zerbi can save us from Deranger folly and keep us up. If he does so (and even if he doesn't) we should fully get behind him and hope he can achieve as much, if not more, than Ange Postecoglou did in his time.

COYS!

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BTW: after match Day 12 in Postecoglou's 2nd season we were 6th; four points off 2nd; with a +14 GD. Half an hour after that City away win it was announced Vicario had injured his foot. We would be without 4 of our starting back 5 for nigh on 3 1/12 months after that. They wouldn't play together in the league for the rest of the season but did start 5 games in the EL and went 4 wins, one draw and won the Trophy.

For "context" as you seem to value that.