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Clive Allen

"I don't think he is a football man,"
"Those decisions have come back to haunt him."
"It's a very expensive squad and someone has to be answerable for that," he said.

"It's so bitterly disappointing the squad has finished sixth this season and the squad of players, in all honesty, are not competitive with the top four teams.

"A decision was made that a new direction had to be found and I just wonder what that direction is."
 
MR Sammy,
I agree the Viagra clubs domination is rather soulless and this is not my model.
ENICs acceptance of being continue "also rans" is not my model either .
I understand your points but my beef is that you have to (simplistic) occasionally speculate to accumulate
which may have been a minor gamble but could have payed off handsomely .
Our rigid no thrills fiscal policy in my eyes has been disastrous as a team with
real intent. Many times we have failed under our owners and have never or will
seize the moment .
 
Mr Brunswick ,
Welcome to this happy breed .
We have a policy to sell our best players when they reach peak financial gain.
Remember Teflon Dan has told us many times "We don't sell our best players"
Proof as they say is in the pudding.
 
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MR Sammy,
I agree the Viagra clubs domination is rather soulless and this is not my model.
ENICs acceptance of being continue "also rans" is not my model either .
I understand your points but my beef is that you have to (simplistic) occasionally speculate to accumulate
which may have been a minor gamble but could have payed off handsomely .
Our rigid no thrills fiscal policy in my eyes has been disastrous as a team with
real intent. Many times we have failed under our owners and have never or will
seize the moment .

We have made some massive errors which have halted and regressed our progression, but I dont believe for one second we are accepting being also rans....then we would have just stuck with Jol.

The managerial roundabout has been farcical, but the intention is always to improve the standing of the club.

Its no secret to anybody that regular CL football has been our goal for a few years now. Its not silverwear, but its a required step for a club with our finances, and ambitions, to take.

The fact that a lot of Spurs fans scoff at top 4 these days goes to show how monumentally big our improvement has been the last ten years. We used to talk about top 4 as something we would never see in our life time.

Look at how we view the EL now.....it was only 6 years ago we were celebrating just being there like we had won the damn thing.

I think people forget too quickly, and they also forget the reasons why their own expectations have increased ten fold......because we have improved ten fold.
 
Not every year.


So just to get this right, you won't be appeased until:

- We spend heavily in the transfer market
- Whilst at the same time not selling any player we deem to be worth keeping
- And at the same time building a £400m stadium

You basically want us to take the best parts of Man City, Real Madrid and Woolwich..........but I guess you don't want to pay any more through ticket prices, membership fees, merchandise........and I bet you don't want any new fans coming along to spoil the atmosphere.......
 
Levy ain't gonna be more patient unless we get a name like FDb who is hard to sack and would make his position untenable if he did, levy is on thin ground with most spurs fans at the moment.
Why is FdB hard to sack? AVB had achieved more at a younger age when he went to Chelsea and came to us. He didn't seem hard to sack.
I don't see how hiring and sacking FdB would finally be the undoing of Levy. The bloke is largely unproven.

Why defend failure, we need to see silverware to feel the love.
The 90's was another planet , as music is Grunge, Britpop.
The teams were arguably not as good but the 91 FA winning
side with Gazza, Lin, Stewart Mabb, Thor ,was better than today, also the 94
side with the famous 5. They were not so consistent but on their
day they could raise themselves to a higher level than today and
were far more entertaining in a swashbuckling bravado way.
. We can all be selective..
As " Glory " is not a buy product of the ENIC ethos, I passionately say
I have no time for their Laconic regime.
As they say "Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia "
:nawty:Errrr, what?

Mr Brunswick ,
Welcome to this happy breed .
We have a policy to sell our best players when they reach peak financial gain.
Remember Teflon Dan has told us many times "We don't sell our best players"
Proof as they say is in the pudding.
No, we don't. We happened to find a few gems in the rough, 2 of which are now indespensible members of Real Madrid's team, and two went to Man Utd to collect various trophies and winners medals.

Not sure how you think Levy would prevent this, when players have immediate ambitions and don't always want to hang around for our 'building project' to come to fruition.
 
We have made some massive errors which have halted and regressed our progression, but I dont believe for one second we are accepting being also rans....then we would have just stuck with Jol.

The managerial roundabout has been farcical, but the intention is always to improve the standing of the club.

Its no secret to anybody that regular CL football has been our goal for a few years now. Its not silverwear, but its a required step for a club with our finances, and ambitions, to take.

The fact that a lot of Spurs fans scoff at top 4 these days goes to show how monumentally big our improvement has been the last ten years. We used to talk about top 4 as something we would never see in our life time.

Look at how we view the EL now.....it was only 6 years ago we were celebrating just being there like we had won the damn thing.

I think people forget too quickly, and they also forget the reasons why their own expectations have increased ten fold......because we have improved ten fold.
It will all hinge on how much freedom the new manager will get and if he can hire and fire his own choices.
 
Every club sells their players - even Chelsea are bracing themselves for the potential losses of Luiz, Hazard and Oscar this summer.

However Chelsea are also able to go out and waste £30m+ on a replacement player. They won't sell unless it's on their terms. We don't have that luxury when we lose players of the quality of Berbatov, Modric and Bale. We have to look for players that are not quite the finished article to replace them. We sell our best players because they usually want out to a bigger club.
 
I agree we have slightly improved under ENIC overall, but one trophy in 13 years is regression not progress, compared to our normal rate of trophy collection (pre ENIC about one trophy every 6/7 years)

Surely trophies are the ultimate judge of progress, though it is good without doubt our financial and league positions have improved under them.

I think we have hit that spot where we have that financial security and we have found our place in the league, 4th / 5th / 6th so we should be looking to attack the domestic and Europa cup. Realistically we can compete for these so why not try and bloody win one.
 
Levy take a look at yourself.
Fair comments, but we have to be one of the worst sets of home fans these days.(Bar the marvellous 1882 people)

Agree. Some of our fans should be fucking embarrassed of the lack of real support they show. Especially those in the West Stand. If all you want to do is sit down, not sing and moan all game, give up yr ticket and let someone else go.
 
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The Daniel Levy circus wheel
 
You are very selective with your stats. Take a decade before ENIC took over and your entire 'argument' collapses..

Suggeat you look at the quality of the squads in the '90's, compare it to thiose in the last 5 or so years.

If you just don't like ENIC why not say so rather than make up specious arguments ?
I stand by my stats. Tell me which one is wrong, if you think any are.
I neither like or dislike ENIC, I judge them by their record, and I think we have slightly improved overall compared to July 87-Dec 2000, so I vote B, as I said before. It will get a bit more tricky by August for ENIC as the 86/87 season will come into play, and then it's likely to make our overall improvement even slighter under ENIC.

Re the quality of our squads, how come if they're so much better we only have one trophy to show for them? The answer is obvious to me, because other squads have improved too.

Check out the quality of Chelsea and City's squads in 1988, for example.
 
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Why is FdB hard to sack?
He's not unsackable. But he has a very good reputation in the game, has a greater CV with no failures and will have the direct backing of some of the squad who have played under him.

Personally I think this means that if there is a dip in form there is the potential for more support from within and a greater belief that he can claw it back - therefore he would likely be given more time than Poch, who has a so-so record at Espanyol and will not be likely to have internal supporters. With many fans wanting the club to give the new name time, it's surely more desirable for us to have the potentially more secure candidate?
 
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