Conte: winners and losers

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Winners:

Tanganja
Romero
N'Dombele (as much as I've been slating the guy of recent, Conte will get this stroppy prima donnas arse into gear)
Gil
Reguilon
Hugo
Gollini
Kane
Son




Losers

Sanchez
Winks
Davies
Alli
Bergwijn
Lo Celso
Doherty

The rest are neutral.
 
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Mourinho is a cunt and always finds 1 or 2 players at every club to dig out and needle incessantly, though. Its why he flames out nearly immediately at every stop. So, yeah, I'm just not sure how much stock I put into anything he says.

True, but everyone is dropping Dele. So there must be some substance.
 
Big winners are Levy/ENIC who will buy themselves a couple of years of angry free fans…

Big Losers are Levy/ENIC when they realise how many players Conte will want to beat the crap out off and obviously sell, and then replace….

True winners are the fans, if Conte succeeds, well we can’t complain about that, if he fails then there truly is no where for the Owners to turn as his failure will no doubt be because of lack of quality players…Win/Win for the fans I think…..
Have to wait to see what happens in the transfer window first, that's a couple of months away. In the meantime Conte has to work with this group of players and make them better by no means an easy task. If he does manage it, I can see Levy being even more reluctant to spend.
 
Mourinho is a cunt and always finds 1 or 2 players at every club to dig out and needle incessantly, though. Its why he flames out nearly immediately at every stop. So, yeah, I'm just not sure how much stock I put into anything he says.
Well yeah but I don't think you randomly come out with something like that in a team meeting if Dele is tearing around giving it 100% every day. Nuno also binned him off fairly quickly so forgive me for being slightly skeptical.
 
Conte’s system needs forward midfielders make late runs into the box right ? Another life-line for Dele?
Yeah I don't doubt he has the engine to do it - not sure he's got the quality though.

Above all it's a mental thing for Dele as to whether he will knuckle down and follow Conte's orders or drop off like he did for Jose/Nuno.
 
Winners and losers I think is really hard to pick accurately for a manager like Conte. Conte has made a career of resuscitating the careers of overlooked or totally out of favor players like Barzagli, Victor Moses, Ashley Young, Marcos Alonso, Llorente, 19 year old Pogba, etc.

I don’t think there’s a player in the team, even some who I really don’t rate, that I would be shocked to see Conte somehow making into a useful player. Not that he’s going to do it for all of them, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were one or two surprising revivals. That’s just kind of how Conte’s career has been.

I agree and my feeling is that anyone who does not respond to Conte, well they will only have themselves to blame, so anyone who gets the boot it will be good news for our club.
 
I may be in the minority but I feel the likes of Davies and Doherty can be unlikely winners out of all this. Davies can maybe carve a role of back up and occasional spot starter at LCB in a back 3 and Doherty could possibly be the same at his preferred LWB. Is it unlikely sure but it couldn’t hurt them since they weren’t favored anyway.
The only true loser in all this seems to be Winksy. I see no hope for him. Possibly Dele as well.

Doherty is RWB not LWB.

I think they could be winners in the sense that they were potentially on their way out and now have a spot in the 2nd team but I can't see even with Conte and the 3-5-2 fitting them better either guy getting time with the first team.
 
any player that cannot run for 90 mins will be out... Ndombele,Davies better pack their bags and anyone else not prepared to put a shift in.
Conte made a decent player out of Victor Moses because he could move himself quickly, so dont be surprised if an out of favour player suddenly looks impressive.

Ndombele will find another ling from somewhere, watch.
 
Feel like Bentancur and Kulusevski definitely adding Conte flavour.

Chelsea title winning 343
Courtois
Azpi Luiz Cahill
Moses Kante Matic Alonso
Pedro Costa Hazard

Bentancur slots into the Matic role alongside Skipp who is doing his best Kante impression.

Davies the Azpi like centre back with forward roaming tendencies
Dier the quarterback in the Luiz role

Kulusevski attempting to add some craft alongside dribbling ability as a (probably) poor man's Hazard.

Feel like his Chelsea team is a decent model for where he wants to take Spurs. He'll want some better wing backs in due course.
 
I don't think we can play wing backs. I really don't. Every team will be happy to allow us to pass it Doherty or Emerson. They know nothing will come of it.
Feel like Bentancur and Kulusevski definitely adding Conte flavour.

Chelsea title winning 343
Courtois
Azpi Luiz Cahill
Moses Kante Matic Alonso
Pedro Costa Hazard

Bentancur slots into the Matic role alongside Skipp who is doing his best Kante impression.

Davies the Azpi like centre back with forward roaming tendencies
Dier the quarterback in the Luiz role

Kulusevski attempting to add some craft alongside dribbling ability as a (probably) poor man's Hazard.

Feel like his Chelsea team is a decent model for where he wants to take Spurs. He'll want some better wing backs in due course.
 
Well if he's not for walking can he kindly adjust the tactics that have seen us overran for the past few games.

It’s definitely a test for him, and likely a challenge he isn’t used to. I think that he had teams before that had the mentality but just needed the organization and tactics to make it all work. I think we have, in general, the natural talent in the team to be far better than we are but really, seriously fucked up mentally.

I don’t see how you can change that right away, or especially mid-game.

That said, I think he needs to do what was done in the past but utilize a system that will allow us to add cover for our flaws until we can build back some small semblance of belief again.
 
Not when his options are Harry Winks and Hojbjerg. Adding more shit into midfield does not equate to more control of the midfield.
Hojberg is his "Warrior" he clearly rates him and it's obvious he'll play him.

Wolves played a graduate player. Do we have an Academy?

But back to last month. If Conte is so unhappy withWinks and Hojberg, why wasn't two new CMs a priority rather than a slow winger or a Rugby League winger?
 
3 league losses in a row for Conte for the first time since 2009. It’s not his tactics, it’s the lazy wankers on the pitch with a history of being bottlers that’s the problem.
I disagree tbh.

I mean our players are generally turbo shit BUT playing 2 centre midfields instead of the 3 is absolutely killing us.
 
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