Cristiano Ronaldo

[stevee]

Not being following this tooooo closely, but doesn't the pay off suggest that there is something to all this?

Also, as a big supporter of the unfairly maligned Victorian art of bertillonage, I have to say that Ronaldo does look like a rapist. I'd pull the lever myself based on this watertight evidence.

He said it was consensual and the pay off was "hush money"

 

[stevee]

She apparently went to the hospital afterwards, so they'll have the results of that testing. Though many times this evidence is really only evidence of sexual intercourse, so it's still he said/she said regarding consent without other evidence.

It's probably why she got the payoff, whether it was consensual or not. In Greasy Ron's shoes (assuming innocence, as that's a staple of democratic justice), a woman he had intercourse with (potentially rough, potentially intoxicated) has a lawyer dial him up and explain she's been the hospital and had a rape kit done and intends to press charges. He knows she has his DNA and there's no other evidence either way. The options are sign a check for what is in comparison $1-500 for you and me, or have her press charges which puts the story in the press damaging his reputation (which is what he makes the majority of his money on via endorsements) and risking conviction in a very circumstantial evidentiary trial.

To me the payoff is only proof of sexual contact. The fact that the sum is so low, comparative to Ron's net worth and income, leads me to believe she didn't have a very compelling case beyond the hospital exam that proved little. If she had good evidence to support rape, surely she presses for more considering Ron makes $100M+ in salary and endorsements per year?

Yeah, put like that it does seem a very dodgy allegation.

It seems to be a regular thing in the USA, pay off and then allegations later.

 

[MemphisWill]

Perhaps we should do a poll?

‘Would you accept a raping from Greasy Ron for £300k?’. Yes or No.

Probably not in great taste, but very little is on TFC.

There's no way I'd accept £300k to be raped by Ron. It's a big chunk, but it isn't life changing. After taxes you're talking about paying off some personal debt in most cases. Financially speaking, the best use of the money (for me personally) would be additional investment towards retirement. I just ran the rough numbers through my calculator and am currently on track to retire at 62. The rape infusion would accelerate that to the same standard of retirement at 53. To me, I'd rather work for 9 extra years and never be raped.

I imagine it all depends on what your standard of living is. If you're at or below the poverty line £300k could be entirely life changing and therefore it may be worth it.

 

[pointSPUR]

It really is guilty til proven innocent these days

You got internet access inside ?

 

[Dr Rocktopus]

There's no way I'd accept £300k to be raped by Ron. It's a big chunk, but it isn't life changing. After taxes you're talking about paying off some personal debt in most cases. Financially speaking, the best use of the money (for me personally) would be additional investment towards retirement. I just ran the rough numbers through my calculator and am currently on track to retire at 62. The rape infusion would accelerate that to the same standard of retirement at 53. To me, I'd rather work for 9 extra years and never be raped.

I imagine it all depends on what your standard of living is. If you're at or below the poverty line £300k could be entirely life changing and therefore it may be worth it.

It would make a difference to me, but in reality I’d probably need to spend more than that on therapy to recover from just meeting the greasy bastard, let alone being sexually assaulted by him.

I think it’s an interesting philosophical question though. At what point does it become ‘worth it’? If Trump offered you a billion dollars to have his way with you, would you take it (in both senses)? I”d probably need to see the cash first.

 

[MemphisWill]

It would make a difference to me, but in reality I’d probably need to spend more than that on therapy to recover from just meeting the greasy bastard, let alone being sexually assaulted by him.

I think it’s an interesting philosophical question though. At what point does it become ‘worth it’? If Trump offered you a billion dollars to have his way with you, would you take it (in both senses)? I”d probably need to see the cash first.

Probably $12M. Envelope math says that's enough for me and my wife to quit working immediately, double our standard of living, pay for a high level of education for up to 4 children from 4 years old through a graduate degree, and have money to survive on (at a safely conservative return rate) until we're 100+.

 

[Dr Rocktopus]

Probably $12M. Envelope math says that's enough for me and my wife to quit working immediately, double our standard of living, pay for a high level of education for up to 4 children from 4 years old through a graduate degree, and have money to survive on (at a safely conservative return rate) until we're 100+.

 

[fogueres]

He is the fastest player in Serie A

 

[AG67]

It will be interesting to see how long he manages to keep going at the top level.
He rarely seems to miss many games through injuries, the guy is an absolute machine.
Real Madrid are certainly missing him anyway.

 

[DTM]

It really is guilty til proven innocent these days

It’s never been different mate. All that innocent until proven guilty is just a nicety. Once accused you have to prove you are innocent or at the very least show reasonable doubt that you are guilty to earn an acquittal.

You don’t earn reasonable doubt by shying away from allegations against you;the trouble is Ronaldo is a brand and his lawyers and insurers will be advising him - not necessarily in his interest but in the interest of his brand and that could turn out very bad in the public eye.

Case in point in Michael Jackson. It’s generally believed that MJ made big money payments and settlements-to his accusers off his own back so-as-to silence them, when in-fact it was his insurers and lawyers pulling the strings to protect not MJ the individual but MJ the brand.

Any payments Ronaldo has made if he has- you can guarantee his insurance company and lawyers are behind them.

 

[DTM]

It will be interesting to see how long he manages to keep going at the top level.
He rarely seems to miss many games through injuries, the guy is an absolute machine.
Real Madrid are certainly missing him anyway.

Maybe he is exactly that a Cyberman from another galaxy..... there’s definitely something superhuman about him.

 

[fogueres]

 

[Dr Rocktopus]

I’d forgotten why I had you on ignore. Spamming the site with this crap.

 

[Larryfromthelane]

Maybe he is exactly that a Cyberman from another galaxy..... there’s definitely something superhuman about him.

Hes definitely something different, he seems like a man amongst boys. A bit like Usain Bolt

Thats not human

 

[Larryfromthelane]

What is it then? That’s racist

Personally, it reminds me of Men in Black. Some kind of alien wearing a man suit

 

[fogueres]

I doubt many on here can read Portuguese. Some can barely read or write English.

It’s just a picture of Ronaldo. There’s no discussion there. Post whatever you want. I’ll moan about or ignore whatever I want, but don’t pretend these endless copy & paste newspaper images constitute a discussion.

I don't read Portuguese either, but this will be the first or second time I put in a Portuguese newspaper. Other times they are Italian, English, Spanish and French and I put a title translation.

 

[fogueres]

I doubt many on here can read Portuguese. Some can barely read or write English.

It’s just a picture of Ronaldo. There’s no discussion there. Post whatever you want. I’ll moan about or ignore whatever I want, but don’t pretend these endless copy & paste newspaper images constitute a discussion.

For the record the title says "Four steps towards the European" referring to 2-4 with Ronaldo still leader.

 

[fogueres]

I loved doing French at school it wasn’t just like learning I found it interesting and since then I have picked up bits and pieces of Spanish, German, Italian and Portuguese and even a few words of Serbo-Croat.
You never know when it might come in handy - and it has.
I’m not English though

Where are you from?

I am Italian, I speak very good Spanish, good English, fairly French but no German, etc.

 

[fogueres]

Scotland. A lot of English people would probably class Scottish as a foreign language I reckon
I like trying to pick up other languages though, German is supposed to be easy for Scots to learn but I found it more difficult than French.

Scotland? On August 22nd I was in Cannes to see Franz Ferdinand. For me as an Italian the same Spanish and French are the easiest to learn, there is the same linguistic root

 

[AG67]

Scotland? On August 22nd I was in Cannes to see Franz Ferdinand. For me as an Italian the same Spanish and French are the easiest to learn, there is the same linguistic root

French, Spanish, Italian are all "romance" languages I think ? A lot of similarities in the words and phrases.
German is supposed to be easy for Scots to learn due to the pronunciation - think of the way Scots people pronounce the "ch" part of Loch Ness - but I just didnt take to it the way I did with French.
My German is very basic.