Cristiano Ronaldo

[Clynelish]

In general clubs are so terrible at handling those kind of things.

 

[Colonel_K]

Rape is a serious matter, disgusting if Ronaldo has paid hush money to try and shut his victim up. To be honest I thought he was as bent as a nine Bob note, or perhaps a truly metrosexual male he’s actually bi.

 

[ArcspacE]

Its true then

LOL - what?

 

[ArcspacE]

Any chance they were somehow suppressing them or knew they were coming?

Or someone is broke and looking for a golden pay-out

 

[94Spurs94]

Seems slightly odd to me that all of these stories have only materialized after he's left Real Madrid

Any chance they were somehow suppressing them or knew they were coming?

I don't think they could have actively suppressed them. But given the timing of it just before his move there they were probably aware of the allegation and the settlement, and given the #MeToo stuff with so many of these cases becoming public after years they may well have guessed this would happen.

 

[SausageVince]

I don't think they could have actively suppressed them. But given the timing of it just before his move there they were probably aware of the allegation and the settlement, and given the #MeToo stuff with so many of these cases becoming public after years they may well have guessed this would happen.

I think you are giving Madrid too much credit.

 

[Airfixx]

Seems slightly odd to me that all of these stories have only materialized after he's left Real Madrid

Any chance they were somehow suppressing them or knew they were coming?

My gut instinct as soon as i heard....

Garreff wasn't exactly showing signs of expecting him to leave after thr CL final.

 

[Dr Rocktopus]

that has gone out of the windoow since weinstein and me too

It’s quite scary. I’d heard negative stuff about Kevin Spacey years ago, so the accusations are probably true, but his career is over without a trial or evidence.

I remember an interview with Matthew Kelly where he talked about being wrongly accused of being a paedo. He said that as soon as the papers ran with it, his career was finished because mud sticks.

Having said all that, Greasy Ron definitely looks like a rapist.

 

[Murphy]

Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but if true, why the pay off and NDA?

 

[Johnboy40]

It really isn’t. In the court of public opinion, perhaps, but not in actual real court

apart from the ones that the rozzers are having to have another look at cos they held back evidence as part of the disclosure process.

we have now had a couple of cases where there was no conviction in a criminal court but success in a civil court. I find that kinda scary

 

[FokkenPrawn]

apart from the ones that the rozzers are having to have another look at cos they held back evidence as part of the disclosure process.

I’m not quite following ... that’s a good thing isn’t it?

Or am I misunderstanding your point?

we have now had a couple of cases where there was no conviction in a criminal court but success in a civil court. I find that kinda scary

Like OJ Simpson?

I don’t know anything about that. Perhaps you can cite the cases & let’s take a look. The criminal justice system sometimes fail us & if evidence can be presented to, & some kind of justice served in, civil court then it’s better than nothing

Suffice to say it doesn’t scare me in the slightest, again as per your 1st paragraph actually quite the opposite

 

[Johnboy40]

I’m not quite following ... that’s a good thing isn’t it?

Or am I misunderstanding your point?


Like OJ Simpson?

I don’t know anything about that. Perhaps you can cite the cases & let’s take a look. The criminal justice system sometimes fail us & if evidence can be presented to, & some kind of justice served in, civil court then it’s better than nothing

Suffice to say it doesn’t scare me in the slightest, again as per your 1st paragraph actually quite the opposite

the fact that the rozzers were FORCED to go back and look at cases because a couple collapsed due to a lack discloure is not a good thing: They shouldn't be withholding evidence in the first place.

civil cases when there has been no prosecution/prosecution was not successful:

Court rules two footballers are rapists

Woman sues man cleared of raping her

I’ve had justice says ‘victim’ as soldier cleared of rape is ordered to pay her £100,000

bear in mind that Civil cases require a lower standard of proof than criminal proceedings

 

[fogueres]

I think you are giving Madrid too much credit.

It is no longer the son of the pharaoh after the sale of Real Madrid. He thinks he was expelled in CL and seems to have become Dogman

 

[Bush Hill Dave]

that has gone out of the windoow since weinstein and me too

You as well? That's not good.

 

[fogueres]

What?

I'll explain it better. They are reporting crimes to CR7. I don’t know how true the violence in Las Vegas is. What is clear is that everything came out after the departure from Real Madrid (and the fact happened in 2009, the summer of the transition from Manchester United to Real Madrid). Yet the Me Too is from October 2017: 1 year ago.

 

[Johnboy40]

Some one has changed his tune on the subject of preening Ron since the champions league

 

[fogueres]

 

[stuart3455]

Hmm, only six pages on this fella. So he is relatively unknown, perhaps we should try and sign this chap before Europes big guns cotton on?

 

[stevee]

SSN reporting that a court order has been issued against Ronaldo for the rape allegations to get his DNA, also the woman in question has waived her right to anonymity.

Cristiano Ronaldo rape allegation: lawyer confirms police have issued warrant for DNA

fogueres

 

[stevee]

Her waiving her right to anonymity makes me suspicious of the claim, I'm not sure if that's shitty victim-blaming culture that makes me a bad person or what - but that's my honest gut reaction.

I can only think of 2 reasons a rape victim would want to not remain anonymous. 1 is they believe the authorities are botching/burying the investigation and want to be in the public eye putting pressure on the case to move forward in an honest manner (which doesn't seem to be the case as LVPD seems to be going about this case in a thorough and careful manner). The other, obviously, is the attention that such notoriety brings and the ability to spin that into personal gain.

Apparently there was an agreement and he paid her off, so there had to be something there. But then, cynically and possibly making me a terrible person again, she's a model whose professional value is directly tied to the ability to attract attention in the public forum...what better way to get publicity?

I dunno, its fucked up. Could definitely see Ronaldo being guilty, but could also easily see this being a similar sort of case to Kobe's. And can see the motive for him to just pay her to avoid the attention originally, $350k is probably 1 day's income or less to him (including endorsements).

If someone said they were going to accuse a person of an act they knew would be difficult and greatly inconvenient to defend themselves from if they didn't give cough up a couple hundred bucks, a lot of peolle probably just hand them the money to go the fuck away. Especially if that person's livelihood is strong derivative of public opinion of them.

This is the problem with #MeToo and social media justice system. Being accused is very damaging, in it's own, and there's really no skin in the game for many false accusers.

TBH I haven't followed the case that closely, my first and maybe wrong assumption, was akin to yours.
This development has made me wonder whether there's more to it.

If they have issued a warrant for his DNA, then it follows that they must have something for them to compare it with.
Whether this was a case of consensual sex or rape, I don't know, (he said,she said) but as the LVPD have issued a warrant it implies that they think they are grounds for a case, at the very least.

If it goes to trial only then will we know more, not necessarily the truth, just more.

Also the pay-off thing is suspicious on both counts, firstly for the reasons you say and she's after more money/exposure or that he thought he could buy his way out of trouble.

If he is guilty he should be locked up for a long time.

If she is lying, she should be locked up for a long time.

Time will tell.