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And DevineLooking forward to seeing him and Skippy@ the weekend.
I hope Dane Scarlett becomes everything Mourinho told The Times:
'I know he’s still very young, just 17, and it is probably too early for the next World Cup, but Tottenham Hotspur have a striker in Dane Scarlett, who, if everything goes well, is going to be phenomenal. For England, there is lots of promise.'
But we also know Mourinho's super-sized ego will claim credit for giving the "next big thing" his Spurs debut.
Anyway, I think we should keep Scarlett, not loan him out, and give him some first team minutes in the Europe Nonsense League. He's 17, and we can better control his physical development in-house rather than have some lower league team play him through injuries and risk burn out, or worse.
Agree. We should treat it like we used to treat Europa league before the winners got CL.The Europa Nonsense League should be entirely youth players and reserve players, even the manager should be the assistant. It would be nice to have one season where the first team can concentrate on the league as priority.
I hope Dane Scarlett becomes everything Mourinho told The Times:
'I know he’s still very young, just 17, and it is probably too early for the next World Cup, but Tottenham Hotspur have a striker in Dane Scarlett, who, if everything goes well, is going to be phenomenal. For England, there is lots of promise.'
But we also know Mourinho's super-sized ego will claim credit for giving the "next big thing" his Spurs debut.
Anyway, I think we should keep Scarlett, not loan him out, and give him some first team minutes in the Europe Nonsense League. He's 17, and we can better control his physical development in-house rather than have some lower league team play him through injuries and risk burn out, or worse.
For me, it depends how good Scarlett is and whether Nuno is prepared to give him genuine game time.Strongly disagree on this one. I think once these kids have proven to be above average, and are physically developed, getting out and playing proper football is best for their development, technically, tactically and mentally. I'd prefer they went abroad to places like Belgium, Netherlands, France etc where the football is more tactical, technical and less shit kick than League 1 or 2, and they won't be under the same spotlight, but I think it's much more valuable than playing virtually no real football for a year or three and just training, playing u23 and a few minutes of europa 2.
He did give him his debut though, any need for someone to have another fucking pop at Jose here?I hope Dane Scarlett becomes everything Mourinho told The Times:
'I know he’s still very young, just 17, and it is probably too early for the next World Cup, but Tottenham Hotspur have a striker in Dane Scarlett, who, if everything goes well, is going to be phenomenal. For England, there is lots of promise.'
But we also know Mourinho's super-sized ego will claim credit for giving the "next big thing" his Spurs debut.
Being loaned out didn't do Harry Kane any harm.I hope Dane Scarlett becomes everything Mourinho told The Times:
'I know he’s still very young, just 17, and it is probably too early for the next World Cup, but Tottenham Hotspur have a striker in Dane Scarlett, who, if everything goes well, is going to be phenomenal. For England, there is lots of promise.'
But we also know Mourinho's super-sized ego will claim credit for giving the "next big thing" his Spurs debut.
Anyway, I think we should keep Scarlett, not loan him out, and give him some first team minutes in the Europe Nonsense League. He's 17, and we can better control his physical development in-house rather than have some lower league team play him through injuries and risk burn out, or worse.
For me, it depends how good Scarlett is and whether Nuno is prepared to give him genuine game time.
We both agree that Poch's "best kids train with the first team" project was not a success. But a key factor was Poch's unwillingness to give regular match time to the best young players, and KWP in particular stalled badly until he started playing every week @ Soton.
Marcus "mini Messi" Edwards was loaned to Norwich. And it was a failure.
I think last season's loan of Skipp to Norwich is the archetypal great loan. Skipp was physically ready at 19 to mix it every week with experienced Championship cloggers, and he will have learnt loads.
I don't think a 17-year-old, in terms of their physical development, should be playing twice a week, picking up injuries on loan & being made to play through them.
Also, Scarlett & Kane seem to get on, and a young striker could not have a better professional role model to learn from than Kane.
So, if Nuno is prepared to give Scarlett first team minutes in the Europa Nonsense League, I say keep him & let him develop physically under the eye of our sports scientists, hoping they now do a better job than they did with Ledley & Aaron Lennon.
Once Scarlett is 18 or 19, if he's not ready to be a first team rotation option at Spurs, then by all means get him a Skipp-type loan to a top Championship side.
I hear all that, B-C, and I largely agree.I definitely wasn't referring to all 17yo's or 17yo's specifically, but the kids that have already excelled at the final youth level (U23's be they 17,18,19) and I did caveat with "if they are physically developed". But also wouldn't rule out sending 17yo's on loan under the right circumstances.
Also stated my preference for certain European leagues where things are generally less physical (hence me saying less shit kick), they also don't play two games most weeks.
I just think there are football/mental/character benefits with the loan system - especially overseas - that you just won't get with the 'train with the first team but rarely play" option - even if you learn that the player isn't as compatible as his early promise suggested. Of course, if you have a good coach and he's actually going to give them reasonable game time then fine, but it's so rare at top end PL level that these kids are really seen as viable or risk-worthy by coaches under extreme pressure, (no matter how shit the first team options are - cough Poch) so it invariably involves a couple of games, in ad hock mish mash teams in the LC/EL away at some weird/shitty pitch - there isn't really the same learning potential and if the player doesn't shine in their one or two starts (in those quirky conditions) they immediately have the fanbase on their case.
That ex centre back that Mendes recommended played about 10-15 games last season upfront so no reason he can’t get games next season - you know the tool who did an mpbappe celebration when he scored a tap in against Sunday league Marine.Strongly disagree on this one. I think once these kids have proven to be above average, and are physically developed, getting out and playing proper football is best for their development, technically, tactically and mentally. I'd prefer they went abroad to places like Belgium, Netherlands, France etc where the football is (younger) more tactical, technical and less shit kick than League 1 or 2, and they won't be under the same spotlight, but I think it's much more valuable than playing virtually no real football for a year or three and just training, playing u23 and a few minutes of europa 2.