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For those saying we won the group that was massively inspite of Southgate not because of him and the other teams being a bit shit.
We played teams ranked 57th, 32nd and 21st in the world.

We scored two goals and five points.


We won the group because it was a piss easy group - nothing to do with Southgate.
 
its funny when people say 'hes taken england to a final and semi'...no they got their despite this useless boring cunt. the balance of this england side is the worst ive ever seen and weve watched england try and play paul scholes on the left.

kanes lack of discipline at being a 9 is a massive problem. he got plaudits for dropping at spurs because the midfield was crap and needed help. at england and probably bayern too you aint going to want your striker dropping deep all the time, youll want him to be an actual striker.
Yeah. Though also ... ffs... why can't the actual midfielders play some decent forward passes. Might help convince the no9 captain to stay as a no9? Maybe because you need movement, or the promise of movement to make good passes (often), and we have none of the above!!??
 
Great player but has he had a word with the committee?


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its funny when people say 'hes taken england to a final and semi'...no they got their despite this useless boring cunt. the balance of this england side is the worst ive ever seen and weve watched england try and play paul scholes on the left.

kanes lack of discipline at being a 9 is a massive problem. he got plaudits for dropping at spurs because the midfield was crap and needed help. at england and probably bayern too you aint going to want your striker dropping deep all the time, youll want him to be an actual striker.

You can utilise Kane's weaknesses and turn them into strengths.

Play two quick inside forwards (probably Bowen and Rashford) and let Kane drop into the No. 10 role.

Southgate's completely fucked the squad selection though by not taking a left back, so everything else is pretty irrelevant now.
 
Jude Bellingham is the cancer, the rot at the centre of every stagnant England attack.

Get him OUT. Get him out immediately. Then marvel at how quickly the ball moves when you have an actual passer and technician in the middle instead of the skims model trying to do his best McTominay impression there.

It’s so obvious that the fulcrum of the team cannot be Jude Bellingham if they are serious.
 
Jude Bellingham is the cancer, the rot at the centre of every stagnant England attack.

Get him OUT. Get him out immediately. Then marvel at how quickly the ball moves when you have an actual passer and technician in the middle instead of the skims model trying to do his best McTominay impression there.

It’s so obvious that the fulcrum of the team cannot be Jude Bellingham if they are serious.
Which is funny given the fact that he was the best player in La Liga last season and won the league and Champions League.

I find it hard to believe that he's the problem. Far more likely that the balance of the team is shit and the manager has set them up to fail with dinosaur tactics.
 
You can utilise Kane's weaknesses and turn them into strengths.

Play two quick inside forwards (probably Bowen and Rashford) and let Kane drop into the No. 10 role.

Southgate's completely fucked the squad selection though by not taking a left back, so everything else is pretty irrelevant now.
do you need kane dropping when you have foden in the 10? he was dropping at spurs because the midfield was utter toilet. foden doesnt need kanes help.
 
Which is funny given the fact that he was the best player in La Liga last season and won the league and Champions League.

I find it hard to believe that he's the problem. Far more likely that the balance of the team is shit and the manager has set them up to fail with dinosaur tactics.
What has he been doing well exactly?

He doesn’t make quick decisions with the ball. He ain’t a technician. He doesn’t keep them ticking over. He isn’t running in behind Kane nor is he playing behind him. He’s just sort of … there.

Ask yourself, if the team is stagnant in attack, seems directionless, and is lacking a midfield, why not ask the question of the #10 in the centre of the field? Why can’t he be criticized? His limitations are on full display.

Madders in his spot and they’d be playing like an actual team. Yes I’m serious. We can throw accolades all we want, I’m asking what’s he doing right now to help the team… and the answer is not much.
 
Jude Bellingham is the cancer, the rot at the centre of every stagnant England attack.

Get him OUT. Get him out immediately. Then marvel at how quickly the ball moves when you have an actual passer and technician in the middle instead of the skims model trying to do his best McTominay impression there.

It’s so obvious that the fulcrum of the team cannot be Jude Bellingham if they are serious.
decent player but the comparisons to zidane are beyond crazy. hes not a pure 10, more like a decent old skool traditional CM. would have him holding with rice, gordon, foden and palmer in front with kane told to either stay high or get him out for toney. that 3 behind the striker will get service to the front man. rice and bellingham would be sound as protection for a shit defence.
 
You need to play Kane though, he's captain and penalty taker (the main way Southgate's England score) - so you need to create a system that gets the best out of him.
you dont play him if he lacks discipline. his dropping deep contributes to the poor balance of the side. when does the question about kane get asked? guys won nothing, went missing for spurs in the big crunch games that meant we could of won something. goes to bayern and they win fuck all for the first time in over a decade. maybe hes become a bit of a problem, it gets masked by his goals.
 
Which is funny given the fact that he was the best player in La Liga last season and won the league and Champions League.

I find it hard to believe that he's the problem. Far more likely that the balance of the team is shit and the manager has set them up to fail with dinosaur tactics.
Bellingham has not played well for England so far at this tournament.

Both the goals England have scored, against Serbia and Denmark, involved huge slices of luck.

Watch the Bellingham goal, in the opening game. and you will see that Walker takes a terrible touch, when he receives the ball. This poor touch actually assists Walker in spotting the opening for the pass, between the Serb's centre back and left back. This is the first slice of luck. Walker then picks out a very good pass but Saka's cross takes a huge deflection off the bottom of the Serb defender's boot who was attempting to make a block. The ball then deflects off the ground, up and over Kane, who was probably the target of the cross, and Bellingham gets the chance to score.

Bellingham was brave and in the right place at the right time but this was not a well crafted goal.

It was lucky.

The same can be said for Kane's goal against Denmark.

Kane was in the right place at the right time to tap in a deflected ball.

Had England created lots of other gilt edged chances I would say nothing. I would accept the luck.

England are a shambles. No left footed left back and no plan other than to not concede.
 
Jude Bellingham is the cancer, the rot at the centre of every stagnant England attack.

Get him OUT. Get him out immediately. Then marvel at how quickly the ball moves when you have an actual passer and technician in the middle instead of the skims model trying to do his best McTominay impression there.

It’s so obvious that the fulcrum of the team cannot be Jude Bellingham if they are serious.

The only issue is, is the fact that he's clearly running on empty, and therefore looks extremely sluggish. The other problem is Southgate not giving him a rest.
 
you dont play him if he lacks discipline. his dropping deep contributes to the poor balance of the side. when does the question about kane get asked? guys won nothing, went missing for spurs in the big crunch games that meant we could of won something. goes to bayern and they win fuck all for the first time in over a decade. maybe hes become a bit of a problem, it gets masked by his goals.

You can't actually believe he's responsible for a freak season in which Leverkusen were absolutely outstanding from start to finish? Kane did his job and more.
 
you dont play him if he lacks discipline. his dropping deep contributes to the poor balance of the side. when does the question about kane get asked? guys won nothing, went missing for spurs in the big crunch games that meant we could of won something. goes to bayern and they win fuck all for the first time in over a decade. maybe hes become a bit of a problem, it gets masked by his goals.

No one else scores, so his goals are pretty vital.

Top scorer in the current squad after him is Saka with 11 and then Foden and Bellingham with 4 each.
 
Bellingham has not played well for England so far at this tournament.

Both the goals England have scored, against Serbia and Denmark, involved huge slices of luck.

Watch the Bellingham goal, in the opening game. and you will see that Walker takes a terrible touch, when he receives the ball. This poor touch actually assists Walker in spotting the opening for the pass, between the Serb's centre back and left back. This is the first slice of luck. Walker then picks out a very good pass but Saka's cross takes a huge deflection off the bottom of the Serb defender's boot who was attempting to make a block. The ball then deflects off the ground, up and over Kane, who was probably the target of the cross, and Bellingham gets the chance to score.

Bellingham was brave and in the right place at the right time but this was not a well crafted goal.

It was lucky.

The same can be said for Kane's goal against Denmark.

Kane was in the right place at the right time to tap in a deflected ball.

Had England created lots of other gilt edged chances I would say nothing. I would accept the luck.

England are a shambles. No left footed left back and no plan other than to not concede.

You make your own luck
 
Another issue is that Southgate was brave enough to drop Grealish and Rashford, two players who have generally done well for England and have tons of big game experience, but isn't brave enough to start their replacements, Gordon, Palmer or Eze.

I know Rashford rightly gets shit at times. But he can score a goal from absolutely nothing, which is always vital when part of a team that doesn't create much at all for various reasons.
 
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