Jenas is accurate in that. Think Dier could become a good player is he's very fit, but Sissoko doesn't have a footbal brain, is so painful tô watch. Every time he gets the ball he will take the worst pass, putting other player in danger or avoiding tô run with a lot of space in front of him, he lacks completely what's needed for a midfielder. Dier as a more defensive midfield at least can pick some good passes, but he uses to be too slow and that is a major concern in a CDM roll. Also, his positionig hasn't been the best for a CDM, but he seems tô be improving.
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Your failure to grasp the very simple tactical changes Jose has made is staggering ... we no longer want to have 65% of useless possession ... we are fine with 45% of useful possession ... so what has that meant? Well in simple terms playing out from the back, painfully slow build up with 100 touches has all gone. Instead we will now fire quick long balls straight or diagonally to mobile strikers pushed well forward. This allows the defenders to stay deeper and thus restrict opposition counter attacks, the downside is that it also creates space between our forwards and midfield, space which better teams can exploit, indeed Wolves did that well yesterday, the reality is that the space is a long way from our goal and if the players are following instructions there will always be six or seven players between the ball and our goal. Thus whilst Wolves managed a lot of possession and a lot of passes they never looked that likely to score.
So what does that mean to the numbers? Well already touched on is possession, we've dropped nearly 10% since Jose took over, also pass completion down from 84% to just 72% yesterday. But equally we've massively tightened up at the back, we still have dodgy moments, but the days of teams having 20 decent attempts per game are hopefully no more. Wolves may have had 18 attempted shots but only four needed saving. That's because we managed a season high 17 blocks, unlike last month we are now getting players in the way, not an accident a very clear tactic.
What that means for Dier in particular is that his passing numbers will not be great, 50 yard passes are not his strength, but that's OK ... the one decent pass to Moura (yes Lucas did all the work) goes down as an assist.
To pick on one player who is in fact doing exactly the job his manager wants explains why Jenas was a shit defensive midfield player, and why you dear Blakey remain clueless. Dier had a very strong game yesterday, us winning 2-1 against a form team who hadn't conceded 2 goals at home since September confirms that fact. The boy is starting to look a bit like the player he was two years ago ... let's hope that's a sign of things to come.
Is he good enough to be a very top sides CDM - maybe not, but he's certainly not shit.
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Dier won't secure that midfield berth.
Does not think quickly enough or move the ball forward as fast as he needs to.
Ndombele can be the focal point but hmmmm.
Mourinho will be on the look out.
Does not think quickly enough or move the ball forward as fast as he needs to.
Ndombele can be the focal point but hmmmm.
Mourinho will be on the look out.
Yes I saw that but surely that is something that is easy to coach Dier to do, not so sure about Sissoko. The danger is that in turning if someone is close to him that he gets dispoccessed and they go on to score. He is being safety first. I do not think these 2 are going to be together for long as Jose has said he does not see Sissoko as a CM.
One of them is 26 the other 30,they’ve both been coached by a very proactive coach for the last 5/4 years respectively, if they are scared to turn into 10 yards of space now, I doubt Mourinho’s going to be the man to do it.
I can understand a DM being safe-ish with his passing, but at some point he does have to turn and face the game. Everyone slaughters Winks for his passing as a DM, but these two make him look like Pirlo.
I think the truth is somewhere in between to extremums... as usually.
He did do more defensively, helped to shut them down on some occasions. And he had less giveaways / straight passes to opposite midfielders.
At the same time Dier-Sissoko midfield was very far from "controling the CM area". As I was fearing before the game - Moutinho and Neves did there exactly what they wanted. Yet when we had the ball, we were on constant panic mode. In latter part Diers partner could be blamed as well...or rather the selection. Sissoko is not the passer / ball-player. He can carry the ball but not calm the game down. We know what he is and what he isn't - we should not demand Dembeleesque stuff from him.
Guess it was more of an "best out of worst" when Winks was recently injured, Ndombele out with injury and Lo Celso ... I'll go with "not trusted".
Clearly there was some improvement, but clearly still lot of room to improve further. If injury situation is similar against Chelsea, I would like to see CM trio of Dier sitting deeper and having duo of Winks-Sissoko in front of him.
He did do more defensively, helped to shut them down on some occasions. And he had less giveaways / straight passes to opposite midfielders.
At the same time Dier-Sissoko midfield was very far from "controling the CM area". As I was fearing before the game - Moutinho and Neves did there exactly what they wanted. Yet when we had the ball, we were on constant panic mode. In latter part Diers partner could be blamed as well...or rather the selection. Sissoko is not the passer / ball-player. He can carry the ball but not calm the game down. We know what he is and what he isn't - we should not demand Dembeleesque stuff from him.
Guess it was more of an "best out of worst" when Winks was recently injured, Ndombele out with injury and Lo Celso ... I'll go with "not trusted".
Clearly there was some improvement, but clearly still lot of room to improve further. If injury situation is similar against Chelsea, I would like to see CM trio of Dier sitting deeper and having duo of Winks-Sissoko in front of him.
You talk utter, clueless garbage. You can operate a pragmatic tactical game plan and tactical periodisation of games even better with midfielders that are better than Dier (0 tackles 0 interceptions yesterday and stood off Traoré when he scored) and Sissoko defensively and who also aren’t shit scared of the ball, constantly panic and bunt it back to the nearest defender, putting him under pressure instead of facilitating quick and incisive counter. A pragmatic ethos (take classic Simeone AM)is best with competent midfielders (Saul, Koke, Rodrigo etc) or Leicester’s title team with the excellent Kante.
We are still shipping goals, 4 in the last 4 days, and shots.
And to further highlight the garbage you talk, you spend a couple of hundred words telling us what a great job Dier did (ignoring he didn’t win the ball once, was weak for their goal, and gave it away 25% of the time and the examples Jenas showed of him putting defenders under pressure) then say “he’s probably not good enough” which is what others are saying that you are arguing with.
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You should hear him talk politics. It's a doozy also.
It all depends on what the coach wants them to do. Clearly Poch told the GK to as much as possible play out from the back and clearly Jose tells the GK to play it long. We do not know what Poch told Dier to do but he did have a preference for maintaining procession at all costs. Jose has not had enough time to influence Dier yet but maybe, just maybe he will encourage him to turn when it is safe to do so. Some of the examples given on MOD showed him in acres of space and even though he does not possess the turning ability of Winks or Ndombele he had time to turn and make a different option.
Dier ,Winks , Sissoko are 3 players who don't know what to do in attack and i don't think we need all 3 of them to play together .
He should have been there to cut out Jimenez's pass. This is the kind of thing people were eviscerating Wanyama for. First of all, he was very slow to react to being caught ahead of the play.
Likewise I watched and thought how much slimmer lighter and mobile he was. It's sad he is way better then than now.
My immediate reaction to that proposition looks something like your avatar
Good thing they're not attackers then
Great post. And Eric nearly scored as well.
Whatever - Dier is shit, Sissoko is shit, Spurs are shit ... we all know what you think before a ball is even kicked ... troll off
Yeah saying the Tories would win with a 50+ majority back in May what JC was calling for an election ... what was I thinking?
Daring to suggest impeachment will fail and Trump will come out stronger ... feckin' crazy
Calling California a cesspit of socialist failings - well at least that one was easy
I agree that they are not attackers.
They are midfielders. Sissoko ball-carrying-midfielder at that. Who can carry ball, and even make runs into box as has been seen recently!
Of course I would prefer Ndombele to be in the mix. But if he is injured, he is injured. I prefer situation where we have 3 players who are not fluent in attacking play to the situation where we could not control midfield at all and give opposite midfielders all the freedom in the world - specially in the case of Chelsea. I trust Kane-Son-Alli with additional options of Moura and Sessegnon to deliver on attacking threat.