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Ed's council house
I bet he ensures that the moat is cleaned by the local peasants twice yearly whether it’s needed or not
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People on this forum are so confidently ignorant. They must live in echo chambers even outside of internet forums.
I'm a Bangaldeshi immigrant, I spent my early childhood there, and have been back a few times. I guarantee you that nearly every one of the 170m people would come here if given the opportunity. My family gets constant subtle and not so subtle hints about how we should bring others over. Jealousy from family back home is a real thing for British-Bangladeshis.
Not only do they have the impression that the UK is rich, but they often believe British people are super duper smart, the streets are basically paved with gold and there's no such thing as crime or poverty. Many people who come here to work as taxi drivers, cooks etc. embellish the wealth and success they had here for obvious reasons.
Just between India, Bangladesh and Pakistan you can find close to a billion willing to move here.
I befriended a Syrian refugee at Uni, and the only reason the rest of his family wasn't here is because they couldn't all get residence, so he sometimes has to visit an EU country to see some of them. There are a LOT of people who would come here if given the chance.
Ed's council house
Tories, and the English racist majority in general, seek to dehumanise those who seek asylum. Objectively it's fair to point out that the Nazis were able to do what they did because they dehumanised Jews, gays, disabled people etc. It is an effective and insightful analogue to use; showing a good command of history.
By opposing Tory racism, Lineker is at once on the right side of history and an anomaly in racist England.
By opposing Tory racism, Lineker is at once on the right side of history and an anomaly in racist England.
Hope GL is not harmed by his barbaric countrymen.
What about those English geezers from Milton Keynes that pretend they're Scottish.
What a set of twat's hahaha
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I think you have both made valid points TBF . My billions comment initially was defensive against Braverman‘s rhetoric trying to stir up immigrant hatred by trying to keep the invasion type talk going . I think it is both unhelpful and very dangerous. I have no issue with accepting yours and StevenPL comments on numbers when reflecting on it . Not to proud to admit it if I have said something wrong or crass
However I think her intention is to cause division by implying that they are all going to come here , which is as I said dangerous rhetoric , especially sitting alongside words such as invasion
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Breaverman is definitely not an honest actor in all this. She has no intention of curbing immigration or fixing the refugee crisis. It is, as you said, just inflamatory rhetoric designed to rile up the tory voter base.
However, the left and mainstream political discourse is also firmly entrenched in a strong pro-immigration stance, and often only because it's seen to be the right thing and it pisses off the "gammon". For instance, they are unwilling to accept that France is doing to us what Turkey is doing to Greece, and what Greece does to the rest of Europe. If they manage to get in, move them onward toward their destination asap. There are "charities" literally ferrying these people across the med and english channel.
We've had Songatte and Songatte 2, then the jungle. It's not getting better, and it never will because the push factors driving these people into Europe will only get worse. Even if we streamline the refugee intake process, it won't make a difference, the demand is essentially infinite. If the barrier to entry is reduced then more people will start popping up in Calais.
She is stirring racial tensions deliberately in my opinion, as evidenced by attacks on asylum centres
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Agreed. Which is just another example of the Tories' terrible incompetence. Who's more galvanized by this latest saga? A lot of anti-immigration people like myself want nothing to do with her or the type of language she uses, whereas pro-immigration people can use her words to validate their own position.
I think it’s more serious than just polarising sides , it‘s already led to violence . Whether pro or anti immigration surely no government should be pouring petrol on the racial fire
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There's a lot of voters that are turning against them because of the shit show they've produced over the last 13 years. They can't convince these voters on policy to improve their lives so are focusing on issues that they can appear strong on but they will do nothing about. Wokeism, trans issues and immigration are easy wedge issues
Honestly you talk a load of shit.
The last attacks on asylum centres happened because someone in one of those asylum centres was trying to get a 13 year old girl to have sex with them.
You really are full of self righteous faaaart.
Watch CNN much?
Can't remember the last time I was in Milton Keynes
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I just speaking in terms of their political strategy. They seem to think they're making the tea party gambit of riling up the morons but it was never going to work.
This gets anti-tory voters (including me) to turn out more than it does to get tory voters to turn out.
We're in the post-trump, post-brexit world where people on the left are not nearly as apathetic.
Well let me remind you, you're from there and even though you moved to Scotland, you are English. Most Scott's folk will call you a NED, most English folk think you're a doylem.
But yeah you got this figured out haven't you Begbie