You haven't heard anything negative from me about Southgate, just go to the England manager thread (or England thread) and I've supported his appointment from day one. And I continue to remain impressed with him, all be it frustrated with his insistence of not playing Winks (or another baller) next to a DM and instead playing with two out and out DM's.
I wouldn't go near him with a barge pole as a suggested replacement for Poch. I want to see evidence of his ability to improve players, something that I'm not expecting him to achieve while an International Manager (it's not in the remit). Managing players every day of the week compared to having them for a week or two a couple of times a year is night and day difference and something I don't recall as an identified ability when he was a Club Manager.
But as a club manager, his next job (if that's what he wants to do next) will require a steep learning curve, and probably a sacking before he is truly assimilated back into club management and during this time should be looked at for his ability to coach players and not just try to have them mimic the club teams managed by proven club managers like Poch, Guardiola and Klopp. The pressing drills, the philosophy and stylistc approach to the team, he will have to own and develop these, something he simply hasn't done or shown for many, many years.
Wouldnt go near him with a barge pole, despite the fact you just acknowledged he plays a midfield that Poch refuses to and has been the root of all evil for three years?
Interesting that you feel he hasnt developed any players either....after dropping all the names and taking in a load of kids from day one.
You think the likes of Maddison and Maguire, Rice, Sancho etc havent developed because of the international set up that trusts them and gives them game time and training?
Poch has abandoned pressing for years, which you also acknolwedged yesterday, so a bit rich lauding him for it. What I saw yesterday was a Southgate team stick 6 past a side with 11 men behind the ball......
Wouldnt that be nice
The domestic thing is also a poor argument...If Poch was offered the Argentina job, would you say he´s going to be shit because International football is different?
If anything, Southgate has learned a lot from having experienced the differences. Positive.