Heung-Min Son (손흥민)

Elephant in the room for 2 years is the team play better and more dynamic with son uptop stretching teams. Kane is a top goalscorer but physically playing on the shoulder, beating a man, running the channels. Those days have gone. Paul merson asks today why utd or city havent come in for kane. Everyone knows hes on the decline physically. Great goalscorer but couple bad injuries too many. All he does now at 9 is come towards the ball
Lets try it again thursday and rest Kane for sunday.
 
When I said Kane could play as AM some people laugh, but is a fact we are now the most predictable team in the League. With him as a striker and without Lo Celso, Ndombele and Lamela we don't have at least 1 creative player and the most we can do is just load crosses in the box hoping for a miracle. Wonder why Mourinho wants Sorloth...
 
I think people have selective Memories. Kane was missing for a few months this season and we were fucking Dog Shit.

Son is a fantastic athlete and a decent goal scorer, but he is a headless chicken. Doesn't hold the ball up well either.
 
I think people have selective Memories. Kane was missing for a few months this season and we were fucking Dog Shit.

Son is a fantastic athlete and a decent goal scorer, but he is a headless chicken. Doesn't hold the ball up well either.
Wrong. We went downhill after Son went down last season.

We went 3-1-1 in league games when Kane went down but Son was playing. The loss was to Liverpool and we had a win against Man City. We also advanced in the third and fourth rounds of the FA cup.

And if you're memory isn't too selective, we had an AMAZING run toe the CL final all without Kane.
 
Wrong. We went downhill after Son went down last season.

We went 3-1-1 in league games when Kane went down but Son was playing. The loss was to Liverpool and we had a win against Man City. We also advanced in the third and fourth rounds of the FA cup.

And if you're memory isn't too selective, we had an AMAZING run toe the CL final all without Kane.
I'm not saying we haven't ever played well without him, I'm saying we have, on a number of occasions, played badly without him.
And yes, you're right about that run of games.
Flipping it around, Kane came back after lockdown and was easily our best player.
 
I'm not saying we haven't ever played well without him, I'm saying we have, on a number of occasions, played badly without him.
And yes, you're right about that run of games.
Flipping it around, Kane came back after lockdown and was easily our best player.
I think the point that people are trying to make is that we aren't more than a mid-table team at the moment. Top 6 at best with or without Kane. So how do we get better as it currently stands? Complaining about our lack of signings isn't going to do anything. People forget we spent quite a bit of money getting GLC and NDombele.

We've literally tried everything other than trying to utilize Kane differently. We've had success playing Son as our #9 and it would be interesting seeing Kane use his abilities as a #10. At the very least, we become more dynamic and less predictable. It's worth a fcking try but my hunch is that Kane isn't up for it. There are some people in this forum that would rather sell Kane than give this a shot. It's ridiculous.
 
I suspect a lot of people will get what they want as I very much doubt Kane will be here next season.

His comment was he'll stay as long as he feels spurs are competitive.
Unless we sell 4 or 5 and sign 5 or 6 in the next couple of weeks this season will be a write off before Christmas.
 

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I suspect a lot of people will get what they want as I very much doubt Kane will be here next season.

His comment was he'll stay as long as he feels spurs are competitive.
Unless we sell 4 or 5 and sign 5 or 6 in the next couple of weeks this season will be a write off before Christmas.
Melting HAAAAARD.
 
I think people have selective Memories. Kane was missing for a few months this season and we were fucking Dog Shit.

Son is a fantastic athlete and a decent goal scorer, but he is a headless chicken. Doesn't hold the ball up well either.
Headless chicken is rather harsh. He doesn't really need to hold the ball up well if he's playing off the last shoulder of the defender and running in behind into space.
 
Headless chicken is rather harsh. He doesn't really need to hold the ball up well if he's playing off the last shoulder of the defender and running in behind into space.
He rarely, if ever makes the pass that he should. He just runs towards goal hoping he can be the one to score and missing the opportunity.
 
Yet he leads the team in assists and one of two players in the league to get double digits in both goals/assists... nitpicking I presume?

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A bit - maybe I'm being selective with my viewing?
I just feel myself uttering the phrase "fucking Son being greedy again" quite a bit.
I was uttering it against Burnley last season when he ran 567 yards and beat every player in Burnleys entire history to score the goal of the season.
 
A bit - maybe I'm being selective with my viewing?
I just feel myself uttering the phrase "fucking Son being greedy again" quite a bit.
I was uttering it against Burnley last season when he ran 567 yards and beat every player in Burnleys entire history to score the goal of the season.
I agree that Son is too greedy, but still not half as bad as Kane. We have a greed problem in our club, primarily propagated by our talisman, in my opinion. In English football culture I think there is the idea that a striker should be selfish, but I think that is limiting to said striker's potential and to the team.

Son's greed, or his inability to get his head up and look for teammates, becomes a bigger problem than it could have been had he been our only greedy player when he is teamed up with Kane and Moura: None of them are there to make the others better.

And when the trio are supported by midfielders who can not create. Well then you have the Everton game.
 
I agree that Son is too greedy, but still not half as bad as Kane. We have a greed problem in our club, primarily propagated by our talisman, in my opinion. In English football culture I think there is the idea that a striker should be selfish, but I think that is limiting to said striker's potential and to the team.

Son's greed, or his inability to get his head up and look for teammates, becomes a bigger problem than it could have been had he been our only greedy player when he is teamed up with Kane and Moura: None of them are there to make the others better.

And when the trio are supported by midfielders who can not create. Well then you have the Everton game.
I'd be interested to see, statistically, how often each players greed has resulted in a goal for each respective player though.
IMO, and it is opinion just from watching, not from stats, Kane is greedy, but also likely to play a pass when he has nothing on at all. Son on the other hand will keep the ball too long when he has no chance and end up tackled.
Not even sure there's a way of even measuring it really. Every time the player gets the ball and the number of times there is either a goal, assist or loss of posession? But then there's shots on target/off taget/blocked etc.

Think it'll stay in the opinion realm
 
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