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Player James Maddison

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Yeah, he's a writeoff this season. Probably should give him the whole season to recover.

Damaging an ACL makes it more likely to redamage, and also increases the chances in the other leg as you compensate. Apparently a 33% reoccurance rate in younger atheletes within 2 years.

Even if he does come back properly, there's a decent chance it could happen again.
Also read there’s a 15% chance it never properly recovers. I’m sure his rehab will be good but that doesn’t mean it’s a formality
 
The fitness and conditioning work was poor all the way throughout last season. The load on players was not managed well at all. Maddison must be devastated gutted for him. Hopefully we have a backroom of adults and we'll get back to general levels of these injuries not end of days settings of the previous two years.
yea, abuse on the body for two years has no long term effect. go and look up ronnie coleman, bodybuilder that battered his body over years and now he cant even walk again, them injuries didnt just occur out of the blue, its built up stress over time from battering the body.
Ange broke his body. So sad.
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Don’t go blaming injuries we get now on Ange mate. That’s fucking pathetic.

Is it?

Players bodies have been beaten and pushed to the limit playing a daft style for the last 24 months.

If it was a player who had never played a min for him fair Madison played plenty of mins under Ange and recently came back from a similar injury picked up under him.

Muscles and ligaments don't just magically repair after having the shit beat out em for years
 
Is it?

Players bodies have been beaten and pushed to the limit playing a daft style for the last 24 months.

If it was a player who had never played a min for him fair Madison played plenty of mins under Ange and recently came back from a similar injury picked up under him.

Muscles and ligaments don't just magically repair after having the shit beat out em for years
these lot think as long as they got 8 hours sleep last night they should be fine looool. no such thing as fatigue.
 
these lot think as long as they got 8 hours sleep last night they should be fine looool. no such thing as fatigue.

As someone who used to play rugby to a barely semi pro standard I know I didn't have the recovery tools these lot have but fuck me I still have aches and pains especially in my shoulder where I tore the ligaments.

Fuck knows how these guys must feel when they tear something then have to run a marathon on it every other week
 
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As someone who used to play rugby to a barley semi pro standard I know I didn't have the recovery tools these lot have but fuck me I still have aches and pains especially in my shoulder where I tore the ligaments.

Fuck knows how these guys must feel when they tear something then have to run a marathon on it every other week
you can tell someones never done any competitive sport in their life when they come out with such nonsense.
 
I might be old fashioned but the least I expect from our players is to be able to run lots.

I expect the manager to make them run... and run... and run.

If it is down to fatigue, then I blame the endless addition of fixtures to the calendar.
 
Report says majority of the season, technically that could mean 51% of it...

Not that it makes it much better, we needed another number 10 even with him fit, but it's rarer these days that you see a player miss an entire season than back in the 90's/early 2000s.
ACL rupture requiring surgery is usually at least 6+ months and usually worse, unfortunately
 
It's a freak injury, much more to do with the high intensity of modern game than the fragility of the said player or the training regiment of a former manager.

He's done for the season by the way, no chance he comes back as a meaningful contributor.
 
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these lot think as long as they got 8 hours sleep last night they should be fine looool. no such thing as fatigue.

I was just talking to my son about that the other day pre Maddison injury.

Specifically long term fatigue and overtraining.

A friend has risen through the ranks in football and it’s something we talked about years ago.
My son has since studied sport science and it’s something he wrote a paper on.

Anges training methods and emphasis on high tempo sprinting in games won’t just go away overnight. But that’s not the whole story.

With top level football the lack of downtime and then making players go on long haul flights doesn’t help either.

It’s going to be interesting to see what that club World Cup does. It has the potential to affect the teams who played in it. Especially the ones who made it to the semis onwards. Will see how this season pans out.
 
Irrespective of whether or not they actually contribute to these injuries, stuff like Club World Cup and Nations League are utter nonsense. Let's get this out of the way.

But, as also evidenced by NBA players who are babied like never before yet still are not immune to going down with these horrific injuries from time to time, the main culprit IMO is the high intensity of the said sport that requires players to make so many sharp moves.

Gone are the days when players had the luxury of standing around or jogging during a good portion of the game, putting little to no pressure to their ligaments and muscles.
 
Irrespective of whether or not they actually contribute to these injuries, stuff like Club World Cup and Nations League are utter nonsense. Let's get this out of the way.

But, as also evidenced by NBA players who are babied like never before yet still are not immune to going down with these horrific injuries from time to time, the main culprit IMO is the high intensity of the said sport that requires players to make so many sharp moves.

Gone are the days when players had the luxury of standing around or jogging during a good portion of the game, putting little to no pressure to their ligaments and muscles.

Do you honestly think overuse injuries aren’t a thing?

Do you work in professional sport?
 
Irrespective of whether or not they actually contribute to these injuries, stuff like Club World Cup and Nations League are utter nonsense. Let's get this out of the way.

But, as also evidenced by NBA players who are babied like never before yet still are not immune to going down with these horrific injuries from time to time, the main culprit IMO is the high intensity of the said sport that requires players to make so many sharp moves.

Gone are the days when players had the luxury of standing around or jogging during a good portion of the game, putting little to no pressure to their ligaments and muscles.

The WWE lot have seen a big upswing in things like ACL injuries (esp. with their new trainees)...

Are we perhaps at a point when we're asking more than the sports scientists and conditioning experts can currently deliver?
 
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Numerous managers have complained about the workload and risks to the welfare of modern footballers. Even Pep.

We're just ahead of the curve.

Anyway weren't we saying injuries are no excuse for last season, given that other clubs have them and did better than us?
 
That fat cunt leaves Frank a bunch of players he's physically wrecked with his nonsensical chaosball and it's Frank's fault.

fml

Madders was injured in a freak way. Ligaments don't take much to be strained or torn, just the right angle or rotation, a change in weight, and it snaps. The key to prevention is to have the muscle support around the ligaments. These thin sinewey-muscle body types seem to get more of them.
 
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