With that kind of insight I suppose you work for a Premier League team or at least in a black box somewhere?
No? I'm surprised. Very, like.
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With that kind of insight I suppose you work for a Premier League team or at least in a black box somewhere?
No? I'm surprised. Very, like.
So you guys are discussing the heck out of Ødegaard and have watched three games in total since he broke through at 14? With other words, you don't have a clue what you talk about?
Look, the kid may fail, but discussing the kid and pretendenting to be all-knows of a player you haven't seen, is just plain stupid. The guy is extremely talented and the hype is valid, but not yet. Like all kids he will need time, but his time will come. He's special, but whether that means he will be a Bale, Modric level player, or a Eriksen one, I can't tell.
Having actually seen him play a lot, I believe he is going make it.
Didn't write him off, just wanted to get across that he hasn't been performing amazingly
No clue, it was forced on Ancelotti by Perez
That is a fair point, because he hasn't. He struggled initially, but the signs are better and the talent isn't gone.
I'm surprised you have the audacity to come out as such a condescending cunt , yes I have made a bold statement regarding the future of a young player but so have you with your "mark my words" bollocks , your words ? I must bow down and submit to your opinions under the weight of your words! , seriously though pull your head out of your arse and keep your ego in check.
Well, that's my opinion, you're entitled to your own. So, then, how many times have you seen him play since he broke through with Strømsgodset?
When have I provided my opinion on Odegaard? - ln fact if you can read, which I am sure you can do at a second grade level at least, you'll see that I said I have no idea how good he is.
Depends what make it means. He's made it.
Like every other person in the world who has a job and a social life not many , you ? and please don't be that fanboy that pretends you watch Real Madrid reserve teams.
So, few then. Fair enough.
I'm Norwegian, and he has interested me since he broke through, that's why I have a decent foundation to form an opinion.
I have watched a lot of games, all for teh senior Norwegian team, a lot of games for Strømsgodset, most for the U21s and quite a few for Castilla as well. Doesn't make it more right or wrong, but I stand by what I say.
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Apart from the insults, fair enough. Do you think I would be allowed to perform my job without being able to read? This is getting strange.
I do too and I don't expect to be belittled by you for having the opposite and equally unfounded opinion of Odegaard.
I don't claim to be an expert on this player but I feel it is practically impossible for a boy to prosper under his circumstances , I believe you shield youngsters not expose them like some marketing tool to a global fanfare like Madrid have done. high profile young transfers struggle with has the weight of expectation Bostock and Pennant are two that spring to mind both made headlines both were tipped as future hall of famers before they even kicked a ball at a high level and both were big money schoolboys Odegaard s probably the most hyped and highest paid schoolboy ever already a global sensation , the boy must try and feel the boots of the legend in full glare of the entire footballing world all at an age where he should just be learning his trade free from distraction.
You have already said that you have almost not watched him, and how could you? There is no reason why you should watch the Norwegian Tippeliga (Premier League), the Norwegian teams (why should anyone else than Norwegians watch them, they are dreadful) and Castilla (for people very much in a sub-group of Norwegian football fans OR Real Madrid fans). That was my surprise at how it's possible to write him off. Because most would not have had the chance to watch him at all.
So, back on track to discussion. I agree, regarding Perez, what they did was wrong. And I believe he would have done it better at Ajax, PSV or Bayern short term. Long term? We'll see. He's again showing signs that he is developing his game further. You cannot put him in the same bracket as Pennant or Bostock, really not. Not even Edwards, who has almost never played vs grownups. The hype was too much though, of course, out of proportion.
Despite all this, I believe, based on having watched him closely since he started, that he is a special talent who will develop into a very good player.
very good player is a broad and subjective term.
what sort of level do you think he will play at ?
In my opinion a few games against dog shit teams at 15 does little to suggest he can play at a very high level , I see a few flicks and tricks and a bit of vision against limited opposition to be honest he seems to be behind where the likes of Geovanni Dos Santos , Nicolas Bendtner and Hate me Ben Arfa were at a similar age. he's barely progressed in the last year.
The little flicks and tricks is not what makes people believe he is special. It's his decision making, his reading of the game on top of all those other qualities. And those are qualities you will need in the grown ups game. He has progressed the last year, but struggled in the first part of the year.
I think we'll see him as a star player in one of the top 5 leagues. It can always go south, but I personally, don't think so.
I, for one, expect nothing. For one, the fact that the "who we must have" thread is almost empty.
That means that even the fans seem happy with what we have.
Secondly, there is no affordable quality out there to come in & swing our season. Pause for thought on that one... of course there is quality out there, but having spent £30 million on someone in the summer, I genuinely doubt any respectable sum of money is getting spent in January.
It's a personal opinion but I'd move for Defoe. He'd come back in a heartbeat, still scores for fun (in a very bad side) & is a yid at heart. Not a sure starter but he never complained badly when he was at his peak. Just the sort of experienced head we would benefit from. A definite plan B.
I think a lot of Spurs fans will be unhappy with his anti semitism.
I'd have Defoe back in a heartbeat, but I don't think he'd come back to sit on the bench at his age.
But hey, if you don't ask .......................