Japhet Tanganga

[Totti]

Great job. Do things look very different if you account for assists? I would assume Eriksen jumps up quite a bit then.

That's a good point.... I thought that's what "Involved in a goal" was meant to account for, but it doesn't. Those ratios are goals scored.

Sorry, they include goals and assists. Edited now.

 

[AcrossThePond]

I mean, it does say in that post it's too early to judge Bergwijn and that I think he'll turn out good.

Sorry, I'm not sure how I missed that.

 

[Spursidol]

Last 4 years (in order of productivity):

KANE:
137 goals and assists in 141 games
Involved in a goal every 1.02 games

SON:
104 goals and assists in 134 games
Involved in a goal every 1.30 games

LAMELA:
39 goals and assists in 58 games
Involved in a goal every 1.50 games

DELE:
96 goals and assists in 150 games
Involved in a goal every 1.55 games

ERIKSEN:
95 goals and assists in 153 games
Involved in a goal every 1.60 games

LUCAS: (2 and a half seasons)
32 goals and assists in 69 games
Involved in a goal every 2.15 games


I mean - I think it's obvious why we keep Lamela around. Yes, it's a shame he plays over half less games than the others but his productivity in comparison is relatively impressive.

Kane however is just a monster.

Its the fact that Lamela is often injured and therefore cannot be trusted to be available if another player is injured which has always been the biggest problem - 58 games in 4 seasons which is way less than half the DESK availability tells its own story. And its always the ('sods law') problem that when we need another AM he's not fit !

Thought his productivity was less, but happy to take your figures - Lamela, Dele and Eriksen actually have very similar productivity ratios (1.50, 1.55, 1.6), and all very acceptable (suspect Dele's form over the last year or so have depressed his statistics).

Bergwijn's combined goals and assists in Netherlands over the 18 months before he moved to Spurs were between Kane and Son's ratios - hopefully he'll transfer something like that ratio to PL and in the short time he's been at Spurs that's looked promising.

 

[stevee]

I wonder what the stats would be like if you excluded the first few seasons with us before Anderton got crocked - I'm sure he was injury free until around 1995. After that, I reckon his average no. of league games is going to be around 20 a season.

According to wiki and from/inc 1995 to when he left us in 2004 when he was injured for pretty much the whole year;

Spurs app - 227
England - 26

Total - 253

253 / 9 years = 28.11 app per season.

That's not too bad I think. The 3 previous seasons for us which are not included in the above

92/93 - 41 app
93/94 - 45
94/95 - 45

Eng - 9

Total - 140/ 3 years = 46.67 app per season.

 

[shempz]

According to wiki and from/inc 1995 to when he left us in 2004 when he was injured for pretty much the whole year;

Spurs app - 227
England - 26

Total - 253

253 / 9 years = 28.11 app per season.

That's not too bad I think. The 3 previous seasons for us which are not included in the above

92/93 - 41 app
93/94 - 45
94/95 - 45

Eng - 9

Total - 140/ 3 years = 46.67 app per season.

So...he probably missed about 18 games a season on average over those 9 seasons. Not so good.

 

[Fattynomates]

Dier and Sanchez have looked pretty solid at CB, but I think Japhet is something special and as soon as he is fit he makes the CH position his own.

 

[StripiestPilot]

Dier and Sanchez have looked pretty solid at CB, but I think Japhet is something special and as soon as he is fit he makes the CH position his own.

No disrespect to Japh but Dier and Davinson have played very well in these two matches, Japh's last start at CB was against Wolves where he was responsible for all 3 goals we conceded. He is an exciting talent but I think we will see him more at full-back until he has developed a bit more. There's no shame in that, Chiellini, Ramos, Puyol, many top CBs have had a spell at full-back while they are learning the game.

 

[Airfixx]

Dier and Sanchez have looked pretty solid at CB, but I think Japhet is something special and as soon as he is fit he makes the CH position his own.

If we bring anyone else in next season I think he'd be better of getting a loan. He's still so young that it'd be great experience for him.

 

[Paul Gascoigne]

Should get a run out against Newcastle

 

[stevee]

Should get a run out against Newcastle

Is he fit again ?

 

[TimothéeAtouba]

Is he fit again ?

Apparently he was on the bench in the last game.

I didn’t know either.

 

[Paul Gascoigne]

Is he fit again ?

I believe so and I would love to see him tonight

 

[Paul Gascoigne]

If we bring anyone else in next season I think he'd be better of getting a loan. He's still so young that it'd be great experience for him.

I know generally that young defenders make errors but he does seem mature and we gave Foyth chances but he wasted them.

 

[Audere!Audere!]

Would be good if he gets some minutes here, yet I cant see anyone other than sissoko starting at RB and Stevie as RM if we play the 442 again.

 

[TimothéeAtouba]

I know generally that young defenders make errors but he does seem mature and we gave Foyth chances but he wasted them.

I agree he's very mature for his age. He may have slipped up here and then but compared to Foyth, he is a lot more stable.

 

[Paul Gascoigne]

I agree he's very mature for his age. He may have slipped up here and then but compared to Foyth, he is a lot more stable.

I think that he must be a better bet than a distraut Aurier

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

15k is a bit low ball. Levy is the best. Get the deal done.

 

[Mariner]

This info is pre lockdown, he had a pay review on the request of Jose after being included in the first team. It’s already around 15-20k

 

[StripiestPilot]

I’m not worried, the lad will sign. Would be daft to lose such a versatile and hungry player over such low wages.