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Manager Jose Mourinho

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Totti said:
Redknapp and Pochettino also got to cup finals in their first seasons.

Let's hope Mourinho can do what they couldn't.
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One of the biggest mistakes Pochettino made was not treating the domestic Cups more seriously. If you have a side that is strong enough to be challenging for the title and the European Cup, they should be able to pick up an odd League Cup or FA Cup along the way. Could have got himself a lot of credit in the bank by picking up one of those.

It’s not going to make it alright if we can do a smash and grab on City on the final.
 
Juno said:
One of the biggest mistakes Pochettino made was not treating the domestic Cups more seriously. If you have a side that is strong enough to be challenging for the title and the European Cup, they should be able to pick up an odd League Cup or FA Cup along the way. Could have got himself a lot of credit in the bank by picking up one of those.

It’s not going to make it alright if we can do a smash and grab on City on the final.
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Clear club policy to focus on top 4 whilst the stadium was being built, and rightly so.

And in the end Pochettinos job wouldn't have been saved by League/FA Cup win - you'd have to be deluded to think otherwise
 
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When you add the 2 last summer recruitment , around 160-180M and only PEH , Tanguy , Reguillon are very good . what a disaster ....
 
Micky Bubbles said:
Perhaps we shouldn't set up to spend most the game defending if that's where our weakness lays?
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This is certainly true. But we knew what Miurinho was gonna do when we hired him, which is why it was never going to work...and a lot of people (myself included) said so at the time.

That still doesn't excuse the players who are habitually shit.

My point is, it doesn't matter who we hire as a manager...this squad ain't sniffing the league. They couldn't keep a clean sheet against an U20 squad.
 
Micky Bubbles said:
A side with our investment playing at greater than the sum of it's parts will challenge - that's what the previous manager had us doing and now we are able to back the current one higher/better so there's no excuse for him. Especially not with his rep.
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Our investment?

We we're lucky with that period. Our investment level is worse than plenty of many other clubs with no ambition. That's never sustainable in the first place. If it were, Poch wouldn't leave.
 
rhenkt said:
Really strange decisions by Jose. Why Doherty at LWB? Why not bring Bale and Vinny at half?
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Cluttered thinking. Trying to be too smart or Klopped.

Who knows.

I see no way back for Mourinho especially once the players lose faith and I can see that happening

No sympathy on my part and I think this is the start of the end for him at club level.

Since Palace he has overseen utter tripe.
 
Micky Bubbles said:
Clear club policy to focus on top 4 whilst the stadium was being built, and rightly so.

And in the end Pochettinos job wouldn't have been saved by League/FA Cup win - you'd have to be deluded to think otherwise
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Is Mourinho’s job under threat? Or more to the point, should it be? Frank Lampard was fired by the Chavs after a bad run of results over 8 league games comparable to what we’ve had over last 8, as was Unai Emery at Woolwich last season after a similar run. We’re not getting our money’s worth for the £15 million a year for the 2nd highest paid manager in the League.
 
If we win a cup, he stays.

If we don't and we don't get top 5 (we won't with our current form), he's out come summer.

Unfortunately things are too volatile for a mid seasons sacking.

And in any case we're still being too harsh I think. Game in hand against Liverpool that if we win puts us one point from. Similar consistency to all teams minus top 3 (united city Liverpool). In all competitions. Final of one. Knockouts of Europe.

And who knows maybe he'll finally trust Vinny and or Bale and we'll get our moneys worth.
 
Micky Bubbles said:
A side with our investment playing at greater than the sum of it's parts will challenge - that's what the previous manager had us doing and now we are able to back the current one higher/better so there's no excuse for him. Especially not with his rep.
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There was a time when the previous squad was barely good enough (probably peaked around 2017, with Kane injury free for the most part, Dele still in great form, Dembele, prime Toby, Eriksen etc), but either side they were never really good enough and needed all the kind of luck that Leicester got.

For the current squad, if everyone was healthy for most of the season, top 4 should be guaranteed, but that's about it. There is just a lack of quality and depth, that the margin of error is extremely low.

The current squad is still short 2-3 top quality players and about 5-6 core rotation players overall of a PL title challenger.
 
Guido said:
This is NOT a player problem, unless you think Liverpool's two CB's tonight are top draw!! It's a manager specific problem.
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It's both. Many players were identified as shit and the team stale even before Mou came. But Mou was supposed to be the cure for what ails the team and hasn't been. His reactive 'style' and cautious approach was supposed to eek out the last bit of supposed quality in a stale team. It hasn't. It's a bit of both.

You need to stop overrating the players that have so many flaws. We have only 1 player that can hold the ball against pressure. Some will say GLC can but he actually has to be available to do that. There is so little quality in this team it is sad. But that problem predates Mou unless you've forgotten about the calls for a painful rebuild so quickly.

That said, Mou has not covered himself in glory and has shown himself to be wanting on the tactical side of things. Yes, he's a dinosaur who should never have gotten the job but it's a bit of both...which all points to one man as the real problem.
 
People harp on about managers all the time at spurs. At the end of the day, if you don't have the players, or atleast a handful of players, to get you to that level, then a different manager will achieve fuck all except more instability

Only players worth their salt at spurs

Kane
Son
Holj
Ndombele
Aldervereld
Rodon
Dele (still think he has quality)

The rest are either squad players or players from Poch early days that have been inconsistent for the past few years. Just not good enough for title challenge

The team is desperate for proper investment.
 
Doc said:
Not his biggest fan but given the style of football he wants his team to play he probably deserves to be backed with the signing of a top level center back of his chosing (within reason) before being considered 'finished' as a top manager. We obviously need a right back and another midfielder, and probably a right wing player as well. I do worry that Doherty was apparently his choice of signing as RB.
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This is a fair point you make but I'd ask why would you give him something when he's done nothing, and I mean nothing, to show that he's improved or is succeeding with what he already has? Investing further would suggest satisfaction with how htings are going.
 
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