Why are you advocating letting Kane go on a free?
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I'd be very careful what you wish for. Even if by some miracle we got an Arab state to buy us for 1bn + and then spend another 1bn+ to catch up City, the dicking around City and PSG have done make us taking the piss with FFP etc that bit harder, and no other owner, no matter how rich, if they play by FFP, will make us much more financially competitive than we are heading for now organically under Levy's stewardship, and we could end up with someone much worse. The Glazers aren't exactly loved or have managed to improve what Utd fans are watching of late (despite spending a billion since SAF fucked off), Villa were above us when Randy Learner took over, they've been down since.
Decent managers pop up all the time, Abramovich goes through them like water. Decent chairman who know this business and who have £2000,000,000 behind the sofa are a bit rarer.
How anyone can argue with this point is beyond me
Of course it's been skewed by the sale of coutinho. But their transfer policy is actually similar to ours.
Before the coutinho sale, under Klopp they had signed 3 players with deals of 30 million or above (Mane, Salah and Oxlade Chamberlain). I'll go as far as saying no coutinho sale meant no Van Dijk, no keita and possibly no Fabinho. Hell, at the beginning of the 2018 summer window, klopps net was 700k. (Which included Keita cos they paid for him early)
They splashed that summer, yeah. And then spent fuck all this, (followed by presses in which Klopp said a lot of the same things pochettino had the previous year...happy with his squad, better to not lose anyone and so on)
in my opinion, they spent next to nothing this summer , despite the champions league windfall, because they spent it all (this summer's budget)the previous year. And no significant sales meant nothing significant to spend.
But similar dealings for us is , in the eyes of some of our support, Levy not backing the manager, whereas Klopps been backed to the hilt. IMO that's horseshit.
Backed with his FIRST CHOICES for the most part, and they've been past the £30m player mark more than a few times, when that was a lot money...and they'd pay the wages.
The top top table is a little too rich for ENIC, it's ridiculously plain to see.
The top top table is a little too rich for ENIC, it's ridiculously plain to see.
Not arguing with any of that. I voted Levy in as I get what he’s building.
We are a brand and a business first and foremost now.
As a famous manager once said. There used to be a football club over there. Not any more.
What we are seeing now is a business with unhappy soon to be out of contract millionaire employees whose minds are clearly not on the job in hand. Their first thought is clearly going to be their next job and payday. All of them will be talking to their agents to negotiate best deals.
Fuck knows what the dressing room is like. Remember Danny’s head being turned by walker leaving?
And another older crowd who we can’t move on. As we ask for too much money.
How we have got to this point is as much Levy’s fault putting crazy prices on players so no one buys them as anything else.
£80m for Eriksen with one season left on his contract. That’s not good business sense. Just stupid. Proved by the fact no one bought him.
Wanyama can hardly run. Just move him on. Surely his wages are better part of £2m a year. Instead allegedly haggle for extra £2m and miss out on selling him....... he’s not a top 4 player anymore that’s for sure.
We really needed a clear out this summer.
Next summer is going to be nuts. Remember the last time we decided to recruit 7 players at once.
And who is in charge of scouting these players as well? They have a lot to answer for. Our scouting seems to be pretty shit.
No , they are champions of Europe, we never reached any pinnacle . Our "project" which has typically imploded only will deliver top 4 at best. They dont just buy prospects but many that can instantly improve their first 11.
If they had failed then they would have spent . Their league form shows that they are far superior to us in overall player quality , a fan base that has expectations and their model
is driven for more than top 4.
We achieved nothing and a self imposed transfer ban , rebuilding and not evolving .
The judgement over our spend shouldn’t be about the last 5 -10 years, you cannot engage in such infrastructure expenditure and expect competitive market spend. The judgement should be on the next 5-10 years now that those commitments have been completed and subsequent debt restructured.
D) the previous owner, whose embarrassing public behaviour left us an extremely unattractive proposition to any player of note(ie gives player contract with get out clause, appears on tv slagging off said player when clause is exercised. Signs player for 6 million, appears on tv telling everyone said player is knackered and he bought a pup, and who left us arguably 10 years behind the competition. Who hired his services to us as chairman via another company, taking not only his salary, but a licensing fee and dividends out of the club)
E) the FA and the premier league,(and, frankly, FIFA/UEFA) for not introducing a fit and proper person ownership test that is fit for purpose, preventing the likes of Abramovich and citehs(and PSG) owners from financially doping, completely skewing the markets away from well run clubs like Man Utd and Woolwich (at the time), us and the dippers(now)
Cos if anyone that doesn't think those last two dont play a part is a naive fool.
And before anyone thinks I'm some blind levy does no wrong merchant, I ain't.
Somethings that have been done on his watch are fucking outrageous.
The way the Jol sacking was handled.
There is something that I cant repeat here due to who told me, but is an utter disgrace(yeah, I know)
Stratford, fucking outrageous.
They are better than us. Never said otherwise.
But it's not cos we ain't spent, its cos they spent it better
You have to take in their wage structure ( their overall outlay is far greater) which means they will 75% of the time spend better than us , as its less of a gamble.
They can add first class improvements instantly, we rarely do.
I was just looking at some of their business..... jeez, they are even better than us at selling squad filler for big money! Now I understand how they’ve generated so much cash.....
Bought Solanke for £6m sold him for £19m!
Sakho sold for £26m
Ings sold for £18m
Allen, Ibe and Ward went for a combo £40m!
Benteke sold for £26m
Levy has a new benchmark.....
That's what I'm saying.I was just looking at some of their business..... jeez, they are even better than us at selling squad filler for big money! Now I understand how they’ve generated so much cash.....
Bought Solanke for £6m sold him for £19m!
Sakho sold for £26m
Ings sold for £18m
Allen, Ibe and Ward went for a combo £40m!
Benteke sold for £26m
Levy has a new benchmark.....
And when you think about it, they had to rebuild after a shite owner as well. But were in a generally better position than us when they started that process.
I completely agree..but they have still spent more wisely than us and scout better (Salah wasnt considered top class over here. And most people, if they were honest, thought they got bent over with Van Dijk ( who is allegedly on less than alderweireld turned down with us)
Again, all I'm arguing is that we have spent plenty , and pochettino has been backed. We have just not spent it as well, and that's on Levy, Mitchell/Hitchen, McDermott and Pochetinno as a group. Not on Pochettino alone, and not on Levy alone
Levy's been awful with his selling the last few years. He has hindered us with unwanted players & lost us money in tranfer fees & wages too. But his fans still go on about you got levy'd. That has made our net spend a lot worse than it should be. If we were getting the bloated fees Liverpool were managing to get in sales, then we would be doing a lot better.I was just looking at some of their business..... jeez, they are even better than us at selling squad filler for big money! Now I understand how they’ve generated so much cash.....
Bought Solanke for £6m sold him for £19m!
Sakho sold for £26m
Ings sold for £18m
Allen, Ibe and Ward went for a combo £40m!
Benteke sold for £26m
Levy has a new benchmark.....
Like the famous old comeback when anyone questions the manager.
Name the chairman you want or that means there isn’t want
Name the chairman you want or that means there isn’t want
It’s was already a landslide before I even saw the thread. Just voted now
It easy to disagree with it. Unless of course you think Poch has taken us backwards from AVB
