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Match Liverpool VS Tottenham Hotspur 2019-10-27 16:30

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When both teams are at their best and with an even handed ref we are more than a match for them.

They were there for the taking in the CL final but we didn't exploit it.

The difference this season is they have all the belief in the world after the CL win, every player wants to be there and is putting in 8/10 performances week in week out, and if they don't they have 5-6 on the bench that can come in and will.

Our players and manager seem to have been feeling sorry for themselves since the CL final, the game on Tuesday night was the first time I've seen us putting a proper shift in this season.

I still don't think we are winning this game, but I think if we show up we can give them a good game.

They aren't light years ahead of us in personnel. It was only a season ago we were ahead of these.

VVD and the decline in our full backs while theirs have kicked on could possibly be the difference
 
Hmmmm.....

I think they have a better manager pure and simple.

Players-wise and in my opinion, take Van Dijk out and it's not as big as results and the last year suggest.

But thet are on a crest of a wave at preaent, due entirely to their manager in my opinion.
Good luck to our new manager if that is true. He has to get our team matching Liverpool or bettering them or else its his fault we aren't better than them. That is a lot of pressure to put on a new manager. Mr new manager, our team is as good as liverpool's so we want us to be as good or if not better than them. In fact above city too if liverpool do win the league like I expect. Basically finish top or else you have under performed. So a new manager will have to win us the league if liverpool finish ahead of city this year or else its down to him for not getting this good team we have to top spot.
But me & you see it differently. I can only think of kane from our team they would probably want. & even then they have a lot of good options in attack. Maybe ndombele too if he fulfills his potential.
 
You just said Southgate is make him play well consistently. Im asking how many great games has he had for england and you answer in a typical retard sammy way.

His last one for a start. He’d be even better if he played under a top manager like Klopp.
Or maybe you just think Henderson is world class while Winks is Champo.

Winks isn’t good enough despite being good enough for a whole season?
 
And that’s why I call him a scapegoat....He’s more than good enough.
People keep talking about working miracles but Poch can’t get the best out of Winks on a regular basis even though Southagte can?

Its a poor argument. Which is why nobody wants to do a head to head with the Liverpool squad.
Just the same old repetative shite about their “superior” squad being light years ahead.
Like Origi would get minutes in the CL final under Poch, or that we can have Son, Moura and Lamela ALL on the bench at once but Lallana, and Shaqiri are supposedly offering them squad depth that is “light years” ahead of us.

And this is the “real fanz” view

Agreed.

Pochettino had to get more from our players but also know what type of qualities a squad needs

In my view neither is apparent (it has been so it's about returning to that but losing the dross).

If pochettino has awoken from his slumber he might have a chance but he still needs to add a striker and a central defender, regardless of me and you have written.

Then he will have no squad quality excuses.
 
First time since we played United away & they needed to win to stop Woolwich winning the title is there spurs fans wanting us to lose. Mixed emotions. Confusion reigns.

Wut?
I might have not followed you properly but... who is wanting us to lose?

I for example expect us to lose, because... well we are playing really-really poorly. I enjoyed this 5:0 win for a change, but this was very specific situation and against lesser team. We will have so much less time on the ball when we play Liverpool, that there is absolutely nothing same between those two games than rules (and that one participant is Spurs). I also am confident that we should still replace Pochettino as a manager.
But neither of those aspects would not make me WANT to see Spurs lose! Hell no!! I always want us to win :) COYS!
 
Good luck to our new manager if that is true. He has to get our team matching Liverpool or bettering them or else its his fault we aren't better than them. That is a lot of pressure to put on a new manager. Mr new manager, our team is as good as liverpool's so we want us to be as good or if not better than them.

Poch has had 6 years and used to finish above Liverpool even though they were spending big while we was “shitting on the manager”

Klopp evolved.
Poch regressed.

A new manager will be judged a lot quicker than the 6 yrs Poch has gotten.


And regarding Liverpool, when the fatigue and injuries kick in, will you still be sucking off their policy of not spending a single penny this summer while we spent 130M and our new signings start to flourish after Christmas, depending on our managers decision to abandon the diamond or not, naturally.
 
Good luck to our new manager if that is true. He has to get our team matching Liverpool or bettering them or else its his fault we aren't better than them. That is a lot of pressure to put on a new manager. Mr new manager, our team is as good as liverpool's so we want us to be as good or if not better than them. In fact above city too if liverpool do win the league like I expect. Basically finish top or else you have under performed. So a new manager will have to win us the league if liverpool finish ahead of city this year or else its down to him for not getting this good team we have to top spot.
But me & you see it differently. I can only think of kane from our team they would probably want. & even then they have a lot of good options in attack. Maybe ndombele too if he fulfills his potential.

Fair enough mate but I see beyond current form or clear light.

I think we have 3 or 4 at least who Klopp would be getting more from and who would be vying for a combined first team spot.
 
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Wut?
I might have not followed you properly but... who is wanting us to lose?

I for example expect us to lose, because... well we are playing really-really poorly. I enjoyed this 5:0 win for a change, but this was very specific situation and against lesser team. We will have so much less time on the ball when we play Liverpool, that there is absolutely nothing same between those two games than rules (and that one participant is Spurs). I also am confident that we should still replace Pochettino as a manager.
But neither of those aspects would not make me WANT to see Spurs lose! Hell no!! I always want us to win :) COYS!

Scott is implying that John Thomas wants Liverpool to hammer us so he can push his agenda that the squad is shit and Levy should go.

Bang out of order. I doubt John wants a Liverpool win personally, but Scott seems to have it in for him.
 
Wut?
I might have not followed you properly but... who is wanting us to lose?

I for example expect us to lose, because... well we are playing really-really poorly. I enjoyed this 5:0 win for a change, but this was very specific situation and against lesser team. We will have so much less time on the ball when we play Liverpool, that there is absolutely nothing same between those two games than rules (and that one participant is Spurs). I also am confident that we should still replace Pochettino as a manager.
But neither of those aspects would not make me WANT to see Spurs lose! Hell no!! I always want us to win :) COYS!
There was some sadness on the board when we won 5-0. Some unable to bash poch as much. Telling us all how they would manager us to better things. Listing what they would have done differently to bring success to our club. You will know what I mean when we probably lose to liverpool, they can be let off the leash.
& I don't doubt some would sacrifice more losses if it meant getting rid of poch sooner for the greater good of the club in terms of the long term.
 
Fair enough mate but I see beyond current form or clear light.

I think we have 3 or 4 at least who Klopp would be getting more from anf who would be vying for a combined first team spot.
Yeah nothing wrong in a difference of opinion. Like I say, if our players are as good as liverpools, & liverpool win the title ahead of city. Then any new manager should really win the title for him to be considered a success. If klopp can do it with equal players than so should he.
 
You just said Southgate is make him play well consistently. Im asking how many great games has he had for england and you answer in a typical retard sammy way.
Spain away he played really well in that. I think you are being a bit harsh on winks as i think he is a good player. But I can see how he can really frustrate people with the way he plays sometimes
 
There was some sadness on the board when we won 5-0. Some unable to bash poch as much. Telling us all how they would manager us to better things. Listing what they would have done differently to bring success to our club. You will know what I mean when we probably lose to liverpool, they can be let off the leash.
& I don't doubt some would sacrifice more losses if it meant getting rid of poch sooner for the greater good of the club in terms of the long term.
What a weird twisted view.

You was told how some people would fix things. For one, I told you I would abandon the diamond, and press.
Poch abandoned the diamond and pressed.

We won 5-0 and people who wanted him to do what he wouldn’t for 10 months are supposedly sad?
You seem like the only one who’s upset, because despite trawling the match thread, all you could find was praise for the team and manager, so your little crusade fell a bit flat.
Awww
 
Yeah nothing wrong in a difference of opinion. Like I say, if our players are as good as liverpools, & liverpool win the title ahead of city. Then any new manager should really win the title for him to be considered a success. If klopp can do it with equal players than so should he.

You mean Klopp can win it in 7 years but our new manager has to win it in one or that means Kane isn’t better than Origi?
 
What a weird twisted view.

You was told how some people would fix things. For one, I told you I would abandon the diamond, and press.
Poch abandoned the diamond and pressed.

We won 5-0 and people who wanted him to do what he wouldn’t for 10 months are supposedly sad?
You seem like the only one who’s upset, because despite trawling the match thread, all you could find was praise for the team and manager, so your little crusade fell a bit flat.
Awww
He has a very weird outlook on us. Everything negative is all to do with Enic and levy. Very strange character
 
He has a very weird outlook on us. Everything negative is all to do with Enic and levy. Very strange character
While accusing others of doing the same with Poch?
Despite others being able to praise Poch??

He has no concept that a football club has different areas of responsibility.

Why would I blame Levy for losing to Colchester??? Yet people did.
Just like I won’t blame Poch for the shit this Amazon nonsense must be causing. I blame Levy for allowing it.

But apparently that’s not possibly to Scott, despite me just writing it.
 
Their manager is definitely on another level......but Shaqiri, Clyne, Lallana, Lovren, Henderson, Milner, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Kieta, Ox, Moreno most definitely aren’t

Only 3 of those you'd expect to feature in our fixture, but I do see your point.

Player to player it's not too much difference, and dare I say it perhaps Spurs edging it in all areas except for defence with the exception of perhaps Mane who I really rate. Salah isn't the player he was in that standout season, he scores but only because he's fed about 5 golden opportunities every game.
 
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