Lucas Moura

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Thought besides the assist, he just huffed and puffed. Was woeful in the first half.

Works hard. But Bergwijn gets criticised for doing exactly that.

Glad he can come in and atleast provide. That's what we need from our weaker players.
 
Thought besides the assist, he just huffed and puffed. Was woeful in the first half.

Works hard. But Bergwijn gets criticised for doing exactly that.

Glad he can come in and atleast provide. That's what we need from our weaker players.
Haha, apart from the 80 yard run and perfect pass that killed the game?

Yeah, better to hit the post and shoot wide
 
If he does that once every 3 games then his output would still be far higher than bergwijn. Not consistent but of the right wingers we have has the best output throughout the season imo. Great dribbler capable of getting you from the edge of the box to the opposition's just like he did today. Should be afforded the same 14/15 game run bergwijn has had in the first team.
 
If he does that once every 3 games then his output would still be far higher than bergwijn. Not consistent but of the right wingers we have has the best output throughout the season imo. Great dribbler capable of getting you from the edge of the box to the opposition's just like he did today. Should be afforded the same 14/15 game run bergwijn has had in the first team.

He can't do that, which was meh at best, every 3 games because we don't play WBA every game.

When defenses don't watch him run and let him have open space like WBA he is completely useless, even today with the space he had he didn't do much.
 
He can't do that, which was meh at best, every 3 games because we don't play WBA every game.

When defenses don't watch him run and let him have open space like WBA he is completely useless, even today with the space he had he didn't do much.
His goal contributions this season considering he's been below bergwijn is far higher. The run he did today is why he should play ahead of bergwijn.
 
His goal contributions this season considering he's been below bergwijn is far higher. The run he did today is why he should play ahead of bergwijn.

His run today was because WBA backed off and gave him space. There is a reason we haven't seen that from him very often, because other teams don't back off like that.

He has been useless this year in the PL, Bergwijn has been much better than him and it isn't even close.

Its fine to use Moura against garbage like WBA and LASK, but against the good teams he is useless and should be sat.
 
Lets be honest , neither Moura or Bergwijn are anywhere near good enough

The argument boils down to who is less shit at any given time
 
His run today was because WBA backed off and gave him space. There is a reason we haven't seen that from him very often, because other teams don't back off like that.

He has been useless this year in the PL, Bergwijn has been much better than him and it isn't even close.

Its fine to use Moura against garbage like WBA and LASK, but against the good teams he is useless and should be sat.
What has bergwijn done against good teams in the league this year or even poor ones for that matter. Lucas did more in one run for this team than bergwijn has for 12 or 13 games or even more. I'd rather a winger actually contribute to the side with a goal or assist now and again and actually give the opposition something else to worry about rather than just a winger that gets back well and helps a full back. Wingers are in teams to contribute with goals and assists.
 
What has bergwijn done against good teams in the league this year or even poor ones for that matter. Lucas did more in one run for this team than bergwijn has for 12 or 13 games or even more. I'd rather a winger actually contribute to the side with a goal or assist now and again and actually give the opposition something else to worry about rather than just a winger that gets back well and helps a full back. Wingers are in teams to contribute with goals and assists.

Bergwijn has contributed with assists this year and is much more dangerous with the ball than Moura.

I agree I want a winger to contribute with goals and assists which is why I want no part of Moura on this team at all. He is useless with the ball at his feet and unless he is given acres of space and time like he was today he provides nothing but wasted effort.
 
His run today was because WBA backed off and gave him space. There is a reason we haven't seen that from him very often, because other teams don't back off like that.

He has been useless this year in the PL, Bergwijn has been much better than him and it isn't even close.

Its fine to use Moura against garbage like WBA and LASK, but against the good teams he is useless and should be sat.
Bergwijn 6 assists zero goals
Moura 6 goals and 5 assists

One assist v Liverpool for Bergwijn and all
rest against the likes of LASK and Maccabi Haifa

Yeah, he’s offering so much more
 
Lets be honest , neither Moura or Bergwijn are anywhere near good enough

The argument boils down to who is less shit at any given time
Personally I’m happy to have players who can do well against lesser teams when needed.
6 goals and 5 assists against lesser teams is still better than 4 assists and zero goals against lesser teams with one assist against a top 6 side
 
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