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Management Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

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Next Manager

  • Rodgers

    Votes: 15 3.6%
  • Potter

    Votes: 25 5.9%
  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 177 41.9%
  • Kompany

    Votes: 43 10.2%
  • Slot

    Votes: 91 21.6%
  • Postecoglou

    Votes: 74 17.5%
  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 31 7.3%
  • Xabi Alonso

    Votes: 11 2.6%
  • Stellini

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Frank

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 21 5.0%
  • Zidane

    Votes: 5 1.2%
  • Glasner

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Amorim

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • Carrick

    Votes: 9 2.1%
  • Gallardo

    Votes: 23 5.5%
  • Schmidt

    Votes: 2 0.5%

  • Total voters
    422
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Does anyone believe without the patronage of Lewis he would still be in a job . Let’s just look at the post Poch era

3 manager hires that were a mixture of unsuccessful and / or toxic
Dodgy due diligence on DOF hire , if there even was any .
Appalling player recruitment
Appalling record on selling underperforming players
Pathetic record on youth
A series of PR disasters
A world class player we wasted and will likely leave
The club is now a laughing stock on almost all forms of media
A salary package that is reflective of massive success not failure
A team undoubtedly needing a refresh 5 years ago yet a number of players remain
Sacking our best manager since Burkinshaw


So should he still be in a job ?

Of course he shouldn’t be chairman only an idiot who supports the club would think otherwise but Lewis is an absent owner so Levy is in effect a dictator of the club. He can be as shit or malicious as he wants.
 
Does anyone believe without the patronage of Lewis he would still be in a job . Let’s just look at the post Poch era

3 manager hires that were a mixture of unsuccessful and / or toxic
Dodgy due diligence on DOF hire , if there even was any .
Appalling player recruitment
Appalling record on selling underperforming players
Pathetic record on youth
A series of PR disasters
A world class player we wasted and will likely leave
The club is now a laughing stock on almost all forms of media
A salary package that is reflective of massive success not failure
A team undoubtedly needing a refresh 5 years ago yet a number of players remain
Sacking our best manager since Burkinshaw


So should he still be in a job ?
John Candy No GIF by Laff
 
I guess there are a few possible conclusions to draw from the Slot debacle.

  1. It was a smokescreen to keep people off the scent of our real target (like to believe this is true but have my doubts)
  2. The compensation fee, and associated wages would mean us taking a massive gamble, and if it didn't pay off, we could be left in 12months shelling out £40+ million on a failed 'punt. Perhaps the team were a little unsure
  3. We've backed ourselves into a corner with Jose and Conte taking such high and publicised salaries that any potential suitor is going to ask for the same, and if not offered, could ask "am I not seen as worthy?". We might not be comfortable doing this again
Deep down i've always thought it was Nagelsmann, he made it clear from the off nothing would commence before the Summer, no reason to think this would change. There's no way we haven't approached him. It could be viewed as an exceptional project, in the best league of the world.

It's a bit disrespectful to name a replacement when Mason is in charge, and it could be unsettling, so due to that and the Bayern compo we likely have to keep quiet, their season looks to complete tomorrow, after which he might be free to sign.

The appointment of the DOF could be a similar affair, with others being out of contract, or available once the season has ended, we might even have been asked to not say anything so it doesn't impact the last few games that can be crucial to a team's season.

I know i'm clutching but what is the alternative...?
 
In my opinion , levy ground him down ,500 days of no transfers . It’s a never ending scenario of managers losing enthusiasm . Neglect by the board create it .

Poch must have felt let down & I don’t blame him one bit
Yep. But there's a recurring theme of people saying he shouldn't have been sacked. He was practically begging for it. What we did after was the problem.
2.6% of people want Rodgers.

I strongly suspect 97.4% of people are going to be pissed of.....
Just because 97.4% didn't use their only vote on Rodgers doesn't mean they're all against it.

Congratulations on misunderstanding my post so completely.

In a salary capped league you can't buy success, so the key appointment tends to be the manager. Ange has proven himself again and again in leagues where you can't get much advantage via the cheque book.

Then, when he got the keys to Celtic, he took them overnight to new levels of success and playing style so has proven he can manage a decent player budget also.

As long as he has proper control and some guaranteed time he would work wonders for Spurs - a big club with lots of resources and a reputation for attractive football.
What?
Do you have any idea what happens at Spurs?
He'll be the only club in the top half where he's completely restricted by an overbearing chairman who has 23 years of repeatedly not giving coaches the tools they need. If he struggled in a league where all teams are on a level playing field, how's he gonna cope in a league where he's the only one working with restrictions?
And he has done absolutely nothing at Celtic that Rodgers didn't. Rodgers won 3 back to back domestic trebles and didn't go into the champions league and set a record of being the WORST team at the group stages in the history of the competition.

Winning the league at Celtic is like winning in Fifa on the easiest setting. It's the single most one sided team in probably any top league in the world including Franfe.
 
Does anyone believe without the patronage of Lewis he would still be in a job . Let’s just look at the post Poch era

3 manager hires that were a mixture of unsuccessful and / or toxic
Dodgy due diligence on DOF hire , if there even was any .
Appalling player recruitment
Appalling record on selling underperforming players
Pathetic record on youth
A series of PR disasters
A world class player we wasted and will likely leave
The club is now a laughing stock on almost all forms of media
A salary package that is reflective of massive success not failure
A team undoubtedly needing a refresh 5 years ago yet a number of players remain
Sacking our best manager since Burkinshaw


So should he still be in a job ?
First 2 points I agree with totally as well as the absurd salary he is on which is probably enough to warrant sacking
 
I guess there are a few possible conclusions to draw from the Slot debacle.

  1. It was a smokescreen to keep people off the scent of our real target (like to believe this is true but have my doubts)
  2. The compensation fee, and associated wages would mean us taking a massive gamble, and if it didn't pay off, we could be left in 12months shelling out £40+ million on a failed 'punt. Perhaps the team were a little unsure
  3. We've backed ourselves into a corner with Jose and Conte taking such high and publicised salaries that any potential suitor is going to ask for the same, and if not offered, could ask "am I not seen as worthy?". We might not be comfortable doing this again
Deep down i've always thought it was Nagelsmann, he made it clear from the off nothing would commence before the Summer, no reason to think this would change. There's no way we haven't approached him. It could be viewed as an exceptional project, in the best league of the world.

It's a bit disrespectful to name a replacement when Mason is in charge, and it could be unsettling, so due to that and the Bayern compo we likely have to keep quiet, their season looks to complete tomorrow, after which he might be free to sign.

The appointment of the DOF could be a similar affair, with others being out of contract, or available once the season has ended, we might even have been asked to not say anything so it doesn't impact the last few games that can be crucial to a team's season.

I know i'm clutching but what is the alternative...?


Posted this earlier.

Would actually make sense why they shot down Nagelsmann rumours and let the Slot rumours run without ever approaching Feyenoord and also why Slot was so quick to agree a new deal if he wasn't really getting an offer from Spurs.

Credit where it's due if this is the case.

Anything other than this is pure unadulterated chaos.
 
I still think the club will be eager to make an announcement before the season ticket renewal deadline. If they don't I'll be convinced there is no plan, and two bald blokes are jetting off around Europe knocking on random doors without a clue!
Maybe they already know that the bloke they are going to appoint would actually put many people off renewing their season tickets?

I wonder how many season ticket renewals were processed during the periods when the Poch, Nagelsmann and Slot rumours were reaching fever pitch?

Levy is a stunning and cunning leech.

The 'leaked' pictures of him on a barstool at an airport had many creaming their pants and painting vivid pictures of a brave new Nagelsmann world without the bald maestro having to say one word.

I'm an old cunt but why anyone listens to the endless speculation from the likes of Ali Gold, O'Keefe, Ornstein, Romano, etc truly baffles me.

These pigs all feed from the same trough as Levy.
 
Nobody is doubting Ange is a good coach.

He's the only coach to make it out of Australia to Europe with no real playing career.

The problem isn't him, it's the fact that he's clearly not the top choice and the club would be choosing him based on not wanting to pay up or provide the resources for their top choices.

If they are bringing Ange now, it's because they couldn't do what was required for Nagelsmann or Slot.

He'd be starting in an impossible situation from the start.


It’s the same for everyone then unless things change drastically with JN
 
Yep. But there's a recurring theme of people saying he shouldn't have been sacked. He was practically begging for it. What we did after was the problem.

Just because 97.4% didn't use their only vote on Rodgers doesn't mean they're all against it.


What?
Do you have any idea what happens at Spurs?
He'll be the only club in the top half where he's completely restricted by an overbearing chairman who has 23 years of repeatedly not giving coaches the tools they need. If he struggled in a league where all teams are on a level playing field, how's he gonna cope in a league where he's the only one working with restrictions?
And he has done absolutely nothing at Celtic that Rodgers didn't. Rodgers won 3 back to back domestic trebles and didn't go into the champions league and set a record of being the WORST team at the group stages in the history of the competition.

Winning the league at Celtic is like winning in Fifa on the easiest setting. It's the single most one sided team in probably any top league in the world including Franfe.

Clueless
 
I think there are definitely worse options out there than Rodgers, however I couldn’t tell you what our supposed plan and route we were trying to go down is if he is part of it.
 
I guess there are a few possible conclusions to draw from the Slot debacle.

  1. It was a smokescreen to keep people off the scent of our real target (like to believe this is true but have my doubts)
  2. The compensation fee, and associated wages would mean us taking a massive gamble, and if it didn't pay off, we could be left in 12months shelling out £40+ million on a failed 'punt. Perhaps the team were a little unsure
  3. We've backed ourselves into a corner with Jose and Conte taking such high and publicised salaries that any potential suitor is going to ask for the same, and if not offered, could ask "am I not seen as worthy?". We might not be comfortable doing this again
Deep down i've always thought it was Nagelsmann, he made it clear from the off nothing would commence before the Summer, no reason to think this would change. There's no way we haven't approached him. It could be viewed as an exceptional project, in the best league of the world.

It's a bit disrespectful to name a replacement when Mason is in charge, and it could be unsettling, so due to that and the Bayern compo we likely have to keep quiet, their season looks to complete tomorrow, after which he might be free to sign.

The appointment of the DOF could be a similar affair, with others being out of contract, or available once the season has ended, we might even have been asked to not say anything so it doesn't impact the last few games that can be crucial to a team's season.

I know i'm clutching but what is the alternative...?

Nagelsmann's agent still hasn't squashed the speculation like he has with Chelsea...

 
What?
Do you have any idea what happens at Spurs?
He'll be the only club in the top half where he's completely restricted by an overbearing chairman who has 23 years of repeatedly not giving coaches the tools they need. If he struggled in a league where all teams are on a level playing field, how's he gonna cope in a league where he's the only one working with restrictions?
And he has done absolutely nothing at Celtic that Rodgers didn't. Rodgers won 3 back to back domestic trebles and didn't go into the champions league and set a record of being the WORST team at the group stages in the history of the competition.

Winning the league at Celtic is like winning in Fifa on the easiest setting. It's the single most one sided team in probably any top league in the world including Franfe.
Why do keep talking about him struggling on level playing fields? He's won everywhere he's gone.

I agree with most of your comments re the SPL but you have to look at Ange's time there in proper context. Celtic was in a mess when Ange arrived after one of their worst seasons in years. He cleared out the deadwood, rebuilt the club and all its football structures and success has followed.

But don't listen to me, listen to Harry...

 
I think there are definitely worse options out there than Rodgers, however I couldn’t tell you what our supposed plan and route we were trying to go down is if he is part of it.
The plan is for 62,000 people to attend at least 19 events and spend lots of money while they are there.

If this can be achieved while the Chairman trousers a huge salary, from TV revenue, on a modest player wage bill; even better.
 
Yep. But there's a recurring theme of people saying he shouldn't have been sacked. He was practically begging for it. What we did after was the problem.
I think anyone who’d done what Poch did with the squad , champions league final & then was treated as he was would be fed up & think “ what’s the point?”

If he’d have been backed when he should have I doubt we’d be where we are today . As the septic turnip said “ Time will tell if it was the right decision “ it wasn’t , another colossal fuck up , that's set us back years with an aging squad
 
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