A decent record.
Nothing special.
No-one mentioned "special".... But, as you were doing, 100 goals in an at times dysfunctional team by the age of 22 is an unrealistic expectation to put upon a player.
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A decent record.
Nothing special.
I don't think I've seen any improvement in Rashford's game from 2 years ago to now to really think he could be any better.
Like I said. Decent player. Great pace. Not particularly intelligent and not a great finisher. Just plays in a team that's better than 14 of the 20 in the league and will always get chances.
No-one mentioned "special".... But, as you were doing, 100 goals in an at times dysfunctional team before by the age of 22 is an unrealistic expectation to put upon a player.
19/20 = 25 goals in 44 apps. = 1.76
18/19 = 13 goals in 47 apps. = 3.61
17/18 = 13 goals in 57 appa. = 4.38
No improvement?
No, for someone who gets as much hype as he does and the calls for World class, that many Utd fans think he is, a 1 in 3 record is pretty bang average.
Regardless of whether he's playing on the wing or not. He's playing on the wing because he isn't a particularly great centre forward. Which is why 3 managers have decided to play better players there.
His record as a centre forward for Utd is still a goal every 2.6 games..
His GAME.
Unless you think Son hasn't improved?
16/17 - 14
17/18 - 12
18/19 - 12
19/20 - 11
?
Since when did you - The Totti - use Utd. fans as a berometer?
Give it up, mate... You said it's a "shocking return". It's not.
You said hasn't improved. He clearly has.
He's not a CF... This reaching is silly.
YOU were the one critiquing his goal tally to begin with.
Let it go.
I said 13 goals in a season is a shocking return. Is it not!?
He's played 96 games as a centre forward for United....
And you came to the rush of a Utd player.
I think its you, who should probably let it go.
......And since vastly improved upon.
So less than half then.... Thus proving he's not a CF..... If he was he'd play there now wouldn't he?
......Instead of them spending money on Ibra, Lukaku & Cavani.
Coming from a guy that spends half his time banging on about other clubs players?????
Grow up, mate...
Good for him?
I never said 22 goals in a season wasnt good. It only took him 4 and a half years to break the 13 mark.
Which means he's also likely played half as a left winger... So which is it?
Not good enough to play CF or?
Like who?
Our exchange started with me responding to your expectation that he should have reached 100 (circa 25 per season) by now.... It was prolonged by your assertion that he hasn't shown improvement.
.......What's that got to do with his goal tally (other than intentionally muddying the water)?
Unless you're saying a LW should typically score more than a CF? :roll:
No one particular player in mind, but don't insult us both by pretending that a vast amount of your posts aren't facts and figures rating or criticising other teams players (which is all that's at play here).
Your "ooohhhh, you're rushing to defend Rashford" comment is just you being a cock. Why not just own it?
I said I found it amazing that a 23 year old who consistently plays for one of the largest clubs in world football in attack hasn't at least got 100 goals for the club heading into his 5th year.
Still do.
Wouldn't surprise me if he sti hasn't got 100 by the end of the season either.
I'm saying that he's nearly played the exact same amount of games as a CF as he has at LW. Because he isn't a great centre forward.
Which is why they've done their best to just throw him out wide at every opportunity due to his lack of all round game.
Well, I bet you they aren't.
I'll criticise average players. Rarely will I ever get so defensive or jump to the defence of another clubs.
Had a hard enough time defending my own clubs players to Spurs fans over the last year.
22 years old.
"Largest" but been relatively shit.
25 goals per season.... 4 years in a row?
It's that sense of "amazement" that I brought into question. I stand by that.
(I think you simply made a statement that doesn't bear scrutiny, but you've chosen to double-down.)
Started wide... Tried at CF..... Preferred out wide (by club, player and England).
Like I suspected, this is just 'pond muddying'.
(Right; so your forum-wide rep for watching a 'bazillian' games a week and having an opinion on all the latest hot topic players is completely unjustified is it?)
You call it "getting so defensive about a Utd player".... It's just a discussion about a player.... Walk away if you're not invested, but childish barbs aren't going to see your opinion prevail.
There's no need to apologise.He's 2 days away from being 23. And a few months away from being a Man Utd first team player for 5 years.
So it's about 20 goals a season. I don't think that's unreasonable at all. Considering Utd play in 4 different competitions.
He's played 263 senior games for club and country and hasn't hit 100 goals. Apologies for thinking that's a pretty shoddy return for someone lauded as some top top player.
He didn't start wide at all. He was a bang average centre forward for their youth team before being called up to the first team during the 2015/16 season where he played 18 of his 20 games as a central forward...
Mourinho came in, realised he was limited as a striker, signed a striker and Rashfords time as a striker was limited, however he did play there 34 times over the next two years under Mourinho and scored a whopping 11 goals when given the chance there.