I am still massively unconvinced, but if Jose wants him then get it done.
It looks like a throwback to Sean Davis and Michael Brown type transfers.
It looks like a throwback to Sean Davis and Michael Brown type transfers.
The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...
may as well get option b if it's themMan City I think were the latest interested.
Rice can do it all, watch him sometime. Stand out player every gave for Spam. And proven at this level. But Hojberg seems okIt seems to be a difficult position to fill or even agree on whether it is necessary or who qualifies for it.
Look in this thread already a lot of disagreement whether Hjobjerg is a DM, whether Liverpool has one, if Carrick filled the role etc. You mention Rice who I have seen people talk about being a potential CB for Chelsea if they sign him. Other have issues with parts of his game.
Then you can get into arguments about guys who are great defenders/tacklers but can't pass, are they valuable? Are they more or less valuable?
Guardiola on Hojbjerg when at Bayern:
Rumour to keep the price up ?Man City I think were the latest interested.
I understand what you´re saying about getting Hojbjerg AND another midfielder. However:Perhaps, but we’d still need to replace Winks. He is simply no longer good enough on the ball, and especially off it, to fulfill the role of the deeper player in a midfield 2.
I’d rather see Lo Celso there and pair Hojbjerg with Ndombele.
And a ball recovery is defined as when a player recovers the ball in a situation where neither team has possession or where the ball has been played directly to him by an opponent, thus securing possession for their team, right?
In terms of tackles as of 16/07/2020 with players who have made at least 10 appearances in the league this season in central or defensive midfield:
9 players rank higher than him.
James McCarthy (Crystal Palace) - 4.5
Wilfred Ndidi (Leicester) - 4.1
Will Hughes (Watford) - 3.2
Declan Rice (West Ham) - 3.1
Tom Trybull (Norwich) - 3
Morgan Schneiderlin (Everton) - 2.9
Marvelous Nakambe (Aston Villa) - 2.8
Oriol Romeu (Southampton) - 2.8
James Ward-Prowse (Southampton) - 2.7
And 5 players rank the same.
HOJBJERG - 2.6
Joao Moutinho (Wolves)
Dale Stephens (Brighton)
Etienne Capoue (Watford)
Fabinho (Liverpool)
Jordan Henderson (Liverpool)
Closest Spurs players:
N'Dombele - 2.5
Lo Celso - 2.2
In terms of interceptions as of 16/07/2020 with players who have made at least 10 appearances in the league this season in central or defensive midfield:
17 players rank higher than him.
Wilfried Ndidi (Leicester) - 2.7
Dani Ceballos (Woolwich) - 2.6
Philip Billing (Bournemouth) - 2.3
Jorginho (Chelsea) - 2 .3
Etienne Capoue (Watford) - 2.3
Ngolo Kante (Chelsea) - 2.3
Dale Stephens (Brighton) - 2
Declan Rice (West Ham) - 2
Jefferson Lerma (Bournemouth) - 2
James McCarthur (Crystal Palace) - 1.9
James Ward-Prowse (Southampton) - 1.8
Morgan Schneiderlin (Everton) - 1.8
Lucas Torreira (Woolwich) - 1.7
Tom Davies (Everton) - 1.7
Oriol Romeu (Southampton) - 1.7
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Liverpool) - 1.7
Marvelos Nakambe (Aston Villa) - 1.7
And 4 rank the same.
HOJBJERG - 1.6
Ruben Neves (Wolves)
Alex Tettey (Norwich)
Cheik Kouyate (West Ham)
Fred (Man Utd)
Closest Spurs players:
Winks - 1.5
Ndombele - 1.4
And only 1 player in the whole entire league as of 16/07/2020 has lost the ball more times than him due to a bad touch.
Dan Gosling (Bournemouth) - 2.4
HOJBJERG - 2.2
Though Ndombele also loses the ball at the same rate as Hojbjerg.
Obviously the good thing about these defensive stats are that there isn't a single Spurs in them so we'd be improving that aspect but per 90, he makes 0.1 more interceptions than Harry Winks and only 0.1 more tackles than Ndombele.
What's worrying is that there are two players in that same Southampton team who are better than him at both tackling and intercepting the ball and don't lose it as often...
I've said it before - I'm all for giving Hojbjerg a chance, if Mourinho has hand picked him and feels he can improve us then so be it. I will back him, just like I've backed all the signings we've made until I've made my own judgement - I wasn't too excited by the signing of Wanyama and he definitely exceeded my expectations.
But we signed him off the back of making:
3.4 interceptions per 90
2.4 interceptions per 90
So putting up a lot monstrous numbers in a much better Southampton team.
Famous story. Some good films made from it, e.g. Deathdream etc.The Monkey's Paw - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Wish for something and you get it but not how you wanted it.
Wished for a DM and got Hojbjerg rather than, ya know, a good one.
Fuck me I'd almost forgotten Sean Davis!!I am still massively unconvinced, but if Jose wants him then get it done.
It looks like a throwback to Sean Davis and Michael Brown type transfers.
I bet it's Everton. I read they have spent 320 mil over the last 3 years and want to spend more this year.Everton I think. could be city. ain't this a similar story. if we are struggling to nab Hojbjerg it doesn't bode well
No he really isn't. They are similar players in fact. Thing is, it seems Mourinho is a big fan and I would rather he gets the players he actually wants so he has no excuses.He’s much more of a DM than Winks