to be fair to Dyche, how else do you expect Burnley to play lol. Have you seen the money (or lack of) they’ve spent over the years. On that basis he’d be a perfect fit for Levy lol
Burnley’s main goal is to stay in the premier league.
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to be fair to Dyche, how else do you expect Burnley to play lol. Have you seen the money (or lack of) they’ve spent over the years. On that basis he’d be a perfect fit for Levy lol
Burnley’s main goal is to stay in the premier league.
Nuno isnt the favourite, thats why he's at 12/1.
If money started going on him, it might indicate something is happening with him (to the bookie) so they shorten the odds to prevent any potential loses.
They dont know a thing about what is/isnt likely with him. They only react to the data they have - where people put their money.
They'll add names as reported, to encourage betting. Then just react to the betting patterns as they occur.
Simple as that really.
No he doesn't. He calls it for what it is.
And I wish more would do the same.
Whenever any ex player points out our shortcomings they get pissed on. Lineker, Hoddle, Jenas.....
It's pathetic
This is where the Moyes comparison also stands, for me.
Hes managed Burnley since 2012 (Moyes was at Everton 11 years was it?).
In either case, regardless of budget, thats more than enough time to develop a team to play how you want them too.
Which is essentially what I conclude has happened, how Everon played, how Burnley play, is by design - its what the manager wants.
Why is the the 'only' data they have? Maybe they also use journalists who have info.
Nuno changed from 4/9 to 11/10 to 12/1 in the past 2 days. How could that be explained only by betting patterns?
You think loads of people put lots of money on the other candidates suddenly, even though there's barely been any news in the past 2 days? That makes no sense.
what’s wrong with Moyes?
Dyche has maximized the success you can have playing that kind of football. There would be no point to giving him better players, the talent can’t show playing like that.
Fair play to him as he’s a great coach, but he’s where he belongs.
You and your journalists...
Why would they trust journalists? With money on the line lets be blunt - they wont.
With Nuno I think the papers said he was off to Fenebache and so people stopped betting on him, allows the bookies to let the odds increase again - hope to get some suckers who think they know better to put money on it at more enticing odds.
And guess what? If any substantial amount does go on - those odds will shorten.
It will be entirely data driven, I bet there is very little human interaction to it.
He's shit
I'd rather Martinez than Gerrard, don't think he is good enough but I think he uses a back 3 to cover the fact with a 4 he can't get players to defend, did a very good job at Wigan to be fair but took shit like Antolin Alcaraz with him to Everton
Would it be possible to get a deal on taking out both?
A new name enters the fray.
I cannot see any Premier League club gamble on him after the Palace debacle. But to be fair to him his football with the Netherlands was very enjoyable and he did decently at Atlanta so he seems to have improved at least somewhat.
Some journalists are reliable, some aren't. You can't seem to differentiate between the two.
You still don't get it. If Skybet kept getting 'suckers' with 'enticing odds' (such as 12/1) to bet on events that actually may happen, it would be Skybet who would go bankrupt.
That's definitely not true. It's a combination of data and information they can obtain. I've seen odds change in a flash based on information being released.
True, except Nuno not being the favourite has no link to the actual likelihood of him becoming our manager.
Movement in betting odds is essentially just a hedge. Nuno drifting just means punters have piled money into other options, to the extent that the exposure bookies have to Nuno actually becoming our manager is less so they can afford to offer more attractive odds to punters.
Just remember...the house always wins
Our chairman is a fucking idiot though, so don't rule him out. Obviously it would be a mistake.
I just don't think that's the case. Nuno's odds moved from 11/10 to 12/1 almost immediately. There's been no public news recently, so what makes you think punters would pile on the other options?
I'm not saying they don't use data of booking patterns, they definitely do. But I guess they also have other influences, such as journalists with good sources.
characterizing his term at Atlanta as “decent” is generous IMO
You choose who you think is reliable, it doesnt mean they are. Thats the differentiation that bothers me.
Might as well just post your opinion as fact, its the same thing by proxy.
Better to treat all journalists with a very healthy scepticism.
Ali Gold spelled it out well the other day. In attempts to defend himself he basically said he relies on people in any given camp, and how reliable is that really?
No, I do.
It will be a combination of bet size and frequency that triggers a response. Risk analysis, simple as that, and with the number of transactions going through these platforms it simply couldnt be done manually - it will be an algorithm and autonomous.
Is it a response to "information", or to people reacting to said release?
If its "information being released" then they know no more than we do, they just react to it themselves.
Public news like it being widely reported Nuno was going to Fenebache?