As I already said in this thread
But if we cant' have a bit of a chuckle at ourselves then all there is to do is moan (at our lack of trophies).
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Match Sheff Utd vs Yid Army FA Cup Wed 1 March 2023
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I guess its because there are enough people sticking nails in our coffin - without us banging them in for them.
United haven't built anything. The owners have spent a fortune on random big-name players to try and placate the fans. Didn't work, you still hear Glazers Out chants.
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This is a tough assignment tonight, a cold Wednesday night in South Yorkshire in the Steel City against a fired up Sheffield United side and home support, who’s confidence will be sky high and who will be thinking they have a great chance of turning us over. They are playing well and look like they’ll be promoted back to Premier League.
Our attitude needs to be spot on. If we turn up in Spursy, soft cock London Fancy Dan mode, we’ll be turned over like we were by Middlesbrough at this stage this time last year. If the attitude is right, the hunger and desire is there and we play well, we should win.
Our attitude needs to be spot on. If we turn up in Spursy, soft cock London Fancy Dan mode, we’ll be turned over like we were by Middlesbrough at this stage this time last year. If the attitude is right, the hunger and desire is there and we play well, we should win.
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In the past when rotating we’d be replacing Kane with a hapless Jansen or Kulu with a limited Lucas. We have guys like porro, Danjuma and Richarlison on the bench. From an attacking perspective the drop off when rotating shouldn’t be massive, sure Richy is the Brazil no 9!
I want the front three to be Danjuma, Richarlison, son
It’s defensively where the drop off is huge. I’d like to see us start the same back 5 as Sunday bar maybe porro..
I want the front three to be Danjuma, Richarlison, son
It’s defensively where the drop off is huge. I’d like to see us start the same back 5 as Sunday bar maybe porro..
Play a strong side tonight please, such an important match.
I have a funny feeling West Ham might do Man United tonight, who will be on the come down from Sunday's cup final. That would leave Man City as the strongest team left and we know we can beat them.
I have a funny feeling West Ham might do Man United tonight, who will be on the come down from Sunday's cup final. That would leave Man City as the strongest team left and we know we can beat them.
You should submit that to Stellini to use in the pre-match team talk!!!!
Nails in our coffin? Things aren't that bad. We've been to a few finals but not won them in recent years.
When people laugh at me for whatever reason, be it the football team or something else, I usually just laugh along, or make a joke about myself too. You'd be surprised how well it works as a defence mechanism.
Keeping one's spirits up and not being overly sensitive about the comments of our rivals about the lack of trophies is what I'd expect an adult to do.
It's just Spursy that Man Utd have had one good season in a while with their new manager, and they've one a trophy, we've had a few good seasons in the last ten years and won fuck all.
I'd prefer to chuckle at the situation than get down in the dumps and harp on as if we're dying and nails and going into our coffin, unless of course that's your sense of humour?
I hope West Ham win, but it seems unlikely looking at the form of the two teams.
The level of fitness required to play top level football today, is totally different to that in the 60's and 70's.
Jimmy Greaves was renowned for slipping out of the ground for a swift half in a a local pub and smoking, yet remained probably one of, if not the best, striker in UK at that time and maybe all time. No chance he would have the fitness to play today when players regularly run 11 kms in a match on that fitness regime.
The fitness levels required and number of matches clubs need to play these days is why a 25 man squad came in - 2 players for every position in an 11 man team plus a 3rd GK and two spare players, all of which is required for regular rotation of players and injuries. In practice most managers try to use 16-20 players - which with Spurs having 4 injured (Bentancur, Bissouma, Sessegnon, Lloris) means using most of the rest of the squad.
its a figure of speech
I don't buy into the policy that to show support you have to slag the club, players and management off.
Man Utd operate on a vastly different budget to us, and they are not trying to pay off a billion pound stadium.
When you finish paying your mortgage off, then you find out how nice it is to have a lot of extra available funds.
Thought we had already played our 1 Saturday 3pm game this season!
Sure, Man United are good and West Ham are shite. But magic of the FA Cup, jumpers for goalposts and all that.
We aren’t struggling to pay the stadium…. The mortgage payments are far less than their interest payments (than the Glazers have borrowed against the club).
It’s actually stupid to call it a mortgage, the repayment is c. 4% of our revenue. My mortgage is far higher than that and i suspect most others are in the same place
Who are you trying to explain this to?
read what I posted, does it actually strike you as serious?
Jimmy Greaves didn't need to be able to run 11Km a game - he had a level of skill that transcended effort, and he would have thrived on modern pitches, and with the current regulatory standards for refereeing.
Underneath what I said, there is a serious point. the physical toll on players back then was greater than todays players because of the way the pitches sapped the life out of you, the physicality of the game was just as hard, but for more brutal reasons.
I am fully aware of the differences, I have watched it all happen before my eyes, not seen clips on you tube to understand what I'm talking about.
The underlying fact is, the ethos back then was to play your best 11 - in fact, if teams didn't in cup games they used to get fined for doing so. I could be wrong, but I believe Spurs were either the first or one of the earliest teams to be penalised for rotating their players.
You didn't read what I posted
and if it's not a mortgage - why did you call it one.
I didn't
I haven't checked the figures but my assumption is that Man Utd have't really outspent us in recent years, at least since Conte has been manager we've spent quite a lot.
When we were winning more trophies in the 80s/90s I suspect that Man Utd had more funds than us then, so it's not all about money.
AFAIK the new stadium is being paid off on the long term and the amounts aren't really effecting the team, we're making much more money than we were in the old stadium.
You surely are not trying to tell me that we have the same cash availability for our playing squad as Man Utd?
You can't be that naive
The bit highlighted is rubbish.
Yes the game was 'harder' and pitches worse, but the athleticism required then was pretty much what you or I could probably do - have 6 pints the evening and stodgy pub food before the match and trundle round the pitch doing maybe 3 or 4 kms.
And its the athleticism required today that means players need more rest (as well as almost zero drinking and smoking, better dies etc) .... and why playing the best X1 every match stopped being the right answer maybe 20 years ago
The club haven't been worthy of the support they get from us for 25 years. But we can't help ourselves.