Doesn’t sound like the coach we need. Think better options in the PL but paratici does like to dip into his homeland a lot.
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Management So (hypothetically) who replaces Ange then?
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Needed one win in his last 6 games to win the league right? And bottled it. No thanks.
De Zerbi's got Marseille into the CL and is saying he 100% wants to stay next season. Marseilles are a mad club with an absolute tool (Longoria) of a President, which managers continually struggle to work with, so De Zerbi could still walk. He would probably be the most evolutionary option to Ange and would mean a degree of continuity within the academy coaching etc.
The point I wanted to make, was that he may be falling in line with Palace's standards, but if he comes to Spurs, he won't be dealing with a squad of 25+ year old experienced veterans; he will have to get a tune out of a group of players, with a significant number of them being young, with very limited experience (Bergvall, Gray, Dragusin, VDV, Sarr, Udogie, Moore, Johnson, Kinsky, Spence, Yang, Vlahovic).
Building a young squad, from the ground up takes a very different skill set vs inheriting a squad of experienced players in their prime.
He's lost 11 games this season and won a first ever FA Cup for Palace.
The season we took Pochettino he lost 12 games with Saints.
I'm not sure why people are downplaying Glasners achievements this year?
It seems like what some posters on here want is someone that:
- Can develop youth
- Plays attacking football
- Can excel beyond expectations
- Proven at a big club
- Consistently gets results
- Champions league pedigree
Unless we can clone Jurgen Klopp, why would any manager that meets all these requirements want to come to the current train wreck at N17?
Agree. It does seem that many fans don't know what they want.
Do you want to develop a young team over many seasons; or buy established players ang get immediate results? Clearly, the latter is not possible for Spurs since they cannot attract (or will pay for) top talent.
So, just like we did under Poch, we have to get young players and develop them. This is not an attractive prospect for "elite" coaches who want immediate success (e.g. Pep, Conte, Mourinho); and it seems it is not an attractive prospect for the fans, who have tasted life in the top 4, and will accept nothing less.
Closest to meeting all that is Xavi
I'm not against Xavi. My only concerns are that the Premier League is unlike any other major league, it's faster, more aggressive and while maybe not as technical as Spain or Italy, it's certainly more competitive. So someone with Premier league experience would be advantageous considering the position we're in.
Xavi also managed a world class team, and although they were in a transitional phase and blooding youngsters, the are a team build on success, they have a winning mentality and have an excellent academy.
It's different at Spurs, we don't have a winning mentality at all, from the team right through to the fanbase. Our academy is ok but its not throwing out gems every year. We are also not going to throw a ton of money at the team, especially if it all goes horribly wrong tomorrow night.
I'd say everything hinges on tomorrow. Lose and we'll lose big players and will enter a transitional period where we probably need a motivator like Harry to get us back on track. Win and we HAVE to push on and forge an identity to get back where we were under Poch, that'll start with the right appointment to compliment the players we have.
Nuno had PL experience. Jose had all the experience in the world.
Ange had no PL experience and finished 5th without Kane. This season now that he has PL experience, we are 17th.
I don't really see the massive bonus for PL experience tbh. It's a fact for players but a cliche for coaches IMO.
Yeah but what's the common denominator, Nuno failed with us, going great with Forest. Mourinho failed with us, went well with Manchester Utd, in fairness he could have won us a trophy.
Ange has been found out at this level, that's all. It's unfair to use him as a benchmark because of his tactical weaknesses. I think we all agree he shouldn't have been considered in the first place.
It's certainly an advantage to come into the league knowing how combative it is. Local knowledge always make a difference, how much of a difference will be down the the particular manager.
Heading to Roma apparently
Not really imo. That's what I'm saying. There isn't really any evidence to support that for coaches.
There's no reason to doubt he will still be part of the process in the interim.
"Breaking news, Xavo, the former Barcelona coach, has signed a deal to become the new Chelsea manager"
Xavo sounds like a character from Grange Hill.
Not really.
The whole point of employing a new gaffa is not accepting that 17th is our level.
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He'll never leave Blockbusters.
His agent just called BS on that
I actually believed it. A big club in a mess, in a less demanding league
Which entailed what specifially?
Walker
Vert (and his partnership with Toby)
Eriksen
Dembele
Dele
Kane
Lloris
...all fell into his lap.
Rose too (but he clearly made him a better player).
Thats 9 of his first XI.
People complain about Levy being tight, but whether one chooses to acknowledge that our money was being ploughed into the stadium at the time; Poch didn't "crack" that "code".... Instead he pouted his way to a season with no new signings and was clearly burned out when he left