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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.
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Wow! I for one cannot believe this is Tottenham, for all those longer term fans are we all collectively thinking we’re in some kind of dream sequence??
4 solid and necessary signings before preseason has even started?!? In addition to the two top quality signings during the January window?! I still remember the harrowing winter of Ryan Nelson.
This sort of activity is all very unheard for Spurs and I am all for it! Nobody pinch me for I do not wish to wake up.
4 solid and necessary signings before preseason has even started?!? In addition to the two top quality signings during the January window?! I still remember the harrowing winter of Ryan Nelson.
This sort of activity is all very unheard for Spurs and I am all for it! Nobody pinch me for I do not wish to wake up.
I did st to a lesser extent but they do have numbers. Which is what we need as well but better quality.
Who are these mythical beasts of whom you speak?
100% agree. Although may be could have done some sort of player swap plus cash for raphina.
I'm somewhat confused why people are always saying things like we're getting/targeting a couple of the best players outside the top six when it is Bissouma and Raphinha but that doesn't equally apply to Richarlison. He's comfortably been Everton's best player for the last 4 seasons and still is only 25.
Everton have also been absolutely dross as everyone knows. I looked up who led them in assists during Richarlison's four seasons there and it was Richarlison himself this year (followed by Gray and Doucoure), Digne last year, and then Sigurdsson the previous two years. The lad has been feeding on absolute scraps in terms of service. In playing in a competent side with Brazil, he was their second leading scorer in WC qualifying behind only Neymar.
He's been at an elite level in terms of percentage of his team's goal involvements (G/A), he's by far Everton's best and most important player during the period he's been there. A couple of examples:
Richarlison (Age 21-25):
Son (Age 23-30)
Gabriel Jesus (Age 20-25):
Sadio Mane at Southampton (Age 22-24)
Diogo Jota at Wolves (Age 21-23)
Raphinha at Leeds (Age 23-25)
People seem to hold Everton's record against him, but I actually think it is a positive in my eyes. He's been a consistent goalscorer playing with absolute dross and under 5 (!!!) different managers. Imagine what he could do playing with class like Kane, Son, Kulusevski, etc. and in a settled system coached by a world class manager in Conte. He could absolutely blow up here.
Everton have also been absolutely dross as everyone knows. I looked up who led them in assists during Richarlison's four seasons there and it was Richarlison himself this year (followed by Gray and Doucoure), Digne last year, and then Sigurdsson the previous two years. The lad has been feeding on absolute scraps in terms of service. In playing in a competent side with Brazil, he was their second leading scorer in WC qualifying behind only Neymar.
He's been at an elite level in terms of percentage of his team's goal involvements (G/A), he's by far Everton's best and most important player during the period he's been there. A couple of examples:
Richarlison (Age 21-25):
- 18/19: Involved in 26% of Everton's goals
- 19/20: 37%
- 20/21: 22%
- 21/22: 35%
Son (Age 23-30)
- 15/16: 7%
- 16/17: 23%
- 17/18: 24%
- 18/19: 27%
- 19/20: 34%
- 20/21: 40%
- 21/22: 44%
Gabriel Jesus (Age 20-25):
- 17/18: 15%
- 18/19: 10.5%
- 19/20: 20.5%
- 20/21: 16%
- 21/22: 16%
Sadio Mane at Southampton (Age 22-24)
- 14/15: 24%
- 15/16: 29%
Diogo Jota at Wolves (Age 21-23)
- 18/19: 29%
- 19/20: 16%
Raphinha at Leeds (Age 23-25)
- 20/21: 24%
- 21/22: 33%
People seem to hold Everton's record against him, but I actually think it is a positive in my eyes. He's been a consistent goalscorer playing with absolute dross and under 5 (!!!) different managers. Imagine what he could do playing with class like Kane, Son, Kulusevski, etc. and in a settled system coached by a world class manager in Conte. He could absolutely blow up here.
Nice to have some perspective.
Amazing how the incredible Bissouma signing seems to have been forgotten after a week of tenuous links to LCBs and Raphinha.
We’re on track for an excellent window.
Agree, if we assume its (say) £50m plus £10m add ons for Richarlison, I'm sure that Everton will want the Winks deal to be similar (say) £18m plus £5m add ons.
And then the Dele deal, rumoured to be up to £40m all from meeting certain targets (and I'd guess first one could be helping Everton to keep in Pl this season just gone is £5m), first 20 appearances worth another £10m etc.
But I'd guess Everton want a deal to be done for Richarlison done on or before 30 June (Thursday) to get maximum offset of their FFP position with contract to buy Winks and crystallisation of any 'add ons' for Dele to occur after 1 July (ie a new FFP period).
And if they really are looking at taking Bergwijn (although I suspect Ajax will up their bid enough to take him there) they need to figure out that deal in case he does go to Everton.
Add in if there is a possibility of getting Gordon (has advantage to Spurs of being HG and we have spare places in squad for HG players) ....... another deal to work through.
dogshit
we are going to offer 6 mill salary and 5 mill loan fee for this clown
Let it go
Maybe there isn’t a good enough target available, so we’re just treating it as a genuine loan.
It’s vaguely worded, but I think it is saying that we’re paying Barca 5m total and that includes partial payment of his salary, with the implication being that Barca are picking up the rest. So a pretty favorable price.
I don’t mind getting Lenglet as a rotation option if we also get someone like Bremer.
barca right now: tottenhams back to sign our deadwood
When we were linked with Mane before Liverpool got him, most our fans thought 30m was massively over priced and 20m would be about right, but by the end of the transfer window, most realised actually, it was about right (or at least not that bad) and by the end of the season, most realised it was actually a bargain.
I don't think we will know if he is overpriced for a year tbh (that goes for most players) as the transfer market, especially for PL players, can massively increase in a short amount of time.
I don't think people are giving credit for how great a start to the window it would be getting Forster, Perisic, Bissouma and Richarlison in before July.
Some fans are just impossible to please.
We can now take our time getting the RWB, CB and forwards we want.
I feel the likes of Spence, Hincapie, Lenglet etc. are there whenever we want to pull the trigger so maybe we are going for alternative options.
Some fans are just impossible to please.
We can now take our time getting the RWB, CB and forwards we want.
I feel the likes of Spence, Hincapie, Lenglet etc. are there whenever we want to pull the trigger so maybe we are going for alternative options.
Yep, his wages are 6m yearly. We’re basically saying well loan him and only pay 5m of his wages, according to that tweet anyway
Obviously I'd prefer Bastoni or Gvaridol, but if our top options aren't available getting Lenglet for basically just a portion of his wages and no obligation to keep him if he's shit is really not a bad option. We'd barely be paying anything and can send him back at the end of the year if it doesn't work out.
He was a top notch player at Sevilla, played quite a lot in the last Barcelona title season, and has been involved in French national team which is stacked with CBs.
It's really quite similar with what happened to Bentancur and Kulusevski at Juve. Barcelona has been unsettled by managerial changes and terrible squad mismanagement and thus the player has fallen off. I also think he's a much more natural fit in a back three than back two, where his lack of pace won't be exposed and he'll be allowed to have a big role in possession. He's genuinely one of the best ball playing centerbacks in the world.
Very low risk deal if it is on those terms and I imagine it also means we'll be getting another CB too. I think they just want Lenglet as another left-footed option alongside Davies more than anything. We know that we were willing to spend 50-60m on Bastoni, that money won't have disappeared and it won't be sucked up by Lenglet either.
If we believe Bastoni and Gvardiol are so much better than the rest for LCB then it’s better to wait. It’s what Liverpool did with VVD and Alisson. The caveat is with Conte it’s hard to plan long-term.
Spence I agree with, but can't think of a single quality RWB that is attainable that fits what Conte wants, so I'm ok going with a player with potential, that is HG for relatively low outlay.
Lenglet was considered one of the best CBs in the world 2 years ago and has had an awful 18 months, where he has declined a lot, but he has been playing in a poor Barcelona side that plays with a back 4, yet the FBs play like WBs and the CM's aren't exactly solid defensively, meaning he is exposed a lot. If any manager can get him back to his best, it's Conte and if any system can give him the best foundation, it's Conte's. Even then, I do have my doubts, so would only want a loan with an option to buy, but if we did get him back to his best, he is better than any other LCB that we have been linked with.
Richarlison I think would be an excellent signing. We aren't getting anyone better than Kane or Son and this guy can push/back up both, plus adds something different.
IMO, this window isn't about upgrading the 1st team, it's about assembling a squad for Conte's system, where the drop off to the "back up" players isn't huge. This is especially important, with not only being in the CL, rather than the lesser European comps, but also with the World Cup mid season.
If we brought in these 3 plus Bremer and only got rid of the deadwood, I think it would be a very good window. If we also upgraded Lucas, it would be an amazing window.
