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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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RealCoolYid said:
This returns us to the gaping hole I mention. If it’s not Hitchens job as I believe he was titled chief scout, if we assume the manager prioritises the first team, then who was keeping a hand on the tiller regarding those coming through, negotiating suitable loans and contracts to keep them tied to the club?

Without being in the know, some reasonable conclusions can be drawn on Hitchen that amount to he was way out of his depth. If he had more about him he could have identified the areas that paratici has and got the right people in.

We now have 3 new staff including paratici, that are deemed necessary.

He oversaw some of our worst years on the academy front and transfer wise.
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There's a whole lot of confirmation bias in your post. Hitchens is just an easy target.

You post stars by defining Hitchens as Chief Scout...... In which case, no it wasn't his job to negotiate loans and contracts.

Since McDermot wound his time down, we've experienced a fair amount of churn at every level......

Academy 'director' (Misc. upheaval.)
U23s manager (Timmy, Ledley, Mason.... Other)
Senior manager (Timmy, Poch, Jose, Mason, Nuno, Conte)
Recruitment/scouting crew (Cast of many inc. Hitchens)
Senior manager (Both Poch & Jose were calling the shots re: loans).
DOF / head of recruitment (Levy, Mitchel, Hitchens, Fab, Poch had deep influence until he left.)

Even though he proved pretty shabby on the whole; truth is he only had majority DOF-clout for a couple of years.
 
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deadleyledley said:
This thread has turned to shit now.

Talking about man utd and casemiro.
PEH going to RM.

Can we have an update on what our squad looks like now that some players have gone on loan. Are we still unable to register another foreign player.
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I'll get it back on track.....


Q. It's the last day of earth and everyone's ordering curry for the final feast......


What's your order? :gallashmm:
 
Airfixx said:
Hitchens is just an easy target.

You post stars by defining Hitchens as Chief Scout...... In which case, no it wasn't his job to negotiate loans and contracts.

Since McDermot wound his time down, we've experienced a fair amount of churn at every level......

Academy 'director'
U23s manager (Timmy, Ledley, Mason.... Other)
Senior manager (Timmy, Poch, Jose, Mason, Nuno, Conte)
Recruitment/scouting crew (Cast of many inc. Hitchens)
Senior manager (Both Poch & Jose were calling the shots re: loans).
DOF / head of recruitment (Levy, Mitchel, Hitchens, Fab, Poch had deep influence until he left.)

There's a whole lot of confirmation bias in your post.

Even though he proved pretty shabby on the whole; truth is he only had full DOF-clout for a couple of years.
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I don’t know what his title was … but my opinion remains he was exceptionally bad at his job.

And I think youve missed point slightly …. I’m not making him fully culpable for all our woes…. I’ve mentioned what I considered a vacuum where no one was taking responsibility rendering us listless in numerous aspects.

An experienced dof has come in and identified that, everything about the club appears to be operating on a different level …. And incidentally hitchen is also no longer with us.

With him gone and a recognisable structure in place I think we’ll benefit even greater moving forward
 
RealCoolYid said:
I don’t know what his title was … but my opinion remains he was exceptionally bad at his job.
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Point being he had various jobs during his time..... For much of which he wasn't responsible for the things you suggested.

RealCoolYid said:
And I think youve missed point slightly …. I’m not making him fully culpable for all our woes…. I’ve mentioned what I considered a vacuum where no one was taking responsibility rendering us listless in numerous aspects.

An experienced dof has come in and identified that, everything about the club appears to be operating on a different level …. And incidentally hitchen is also no longer with us.

With him gone and a recognisable structure in place I think we’ll benefit even greater moving forward
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We lacked a trickle-down vision and (as per convo context) a stability and visible pathway that youth players could put faith in.

In modern football, you risk that when you don't have a fully fledged DOF in place; even if some of the component staff are good at what they do. I think if you're looking for a figure-head for blame then Levy would be the most appropriate starting point.

Hitchens didn't fuck the academy up.
 
Airfixx said:
Point being he had various jobs during his time..... For much of which he wasn't responsible for the things you suggested.



We lacked a trickle-down vision and (as per convo context) a stability and visible pathway that youth players could put faith in.

In modern football, you risk that when you don't have a fully fledged DOF in place; even if some of the component staff are good at what they do. I think if you're looking for a figure-head for blame then Levy would be the most appropriate starting point.

Hitchens didn't fuck the academy up.
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No I know he didn’t …. If you read the first paragraph I actually exonerate him from much of the blame, whilst still considering him poor at what he was charged with.

However someone with more about them might have been able to take the reigns and do something akin to what paratici has done.

He didn’t have talent, character or experience to achieve this.

Then next to him seemed to be no one of note with mistakes made and little accountability and we lost considerable ground

Hopefully with the new structure that’s the end of these underperforming departments
 
RealCoolYid said:
No I know he didn’t ….
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Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought that's where the thread of this convo tracks back to; the suggestion that Hitchens is to blame for a lot of acad. lads leaving, crap loan strategy etc.. If not, my bad.

RealCoolYid said:
If you read the first paragraph I actually exonerate him from much of the blame, whilst still considering him poor at what he was charged with.

However someone with more about them might have been able to take the reigns and do something akin to what paratici has done.
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He's never had the clout that Fab has been given.

RealCoolYid said:
Hopefully with the new structure that’s the end of these underperforming departments
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Indeed......
 
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