Still don’t get this talk of Adama? Thought that all died of death last season luckily. Why do we need to buy someone who is generally crap and convert to rwb? We would have 4 on our books plus Lucas. We have just bought an up and coming player for this role why not just develop him. Instead of spending more money which could be used elsewhere on a player who has played in that position and whose crosses are worse than royals.
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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.
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Goes without saying but Daniel James would be incredibly underwhelming. Nippy, fine mid-table squad player.
ASM won't happen but would be incredibly exciting. Adama Traore would be a useful option to have, I think Conte would get more out of him than previous coaches have managed, but understand people who dislike the idea.
Anthony Gordon is probably more talented than some people give him credit for when they scoff at the pricetag. Haven't a clue where we go, personally think Paqueta would be interesting. The SSN ticker just mentioned our interest in Jack Harrison,
ASM won't happen but would be incredibly exciting. Adama Traore would be a useful option to have, I think Conte would get more out of him than previous coaches have managed, but understand people who dislike the idea.
Anthony Gordon is probably more talented than some people give him credit for when they scoff at the pricetag. Haven't a clue where we go, personally think Paqueta would be interesting. The SSN ticker just mentioned our interest in Jack Harrison,
I’d rather not buy any more and keep what we have already purchased eg Gil and Sarr and give them gane time and develop. We don’t need the likes of janes or Adama. Both rejects at their clubs.
Fair point on him being a LW, we have Rich now so should prioritise a RW.
Malinovskyi can't start regularly for Atalanta so would be quite risk- a bit underwhelming.
I'm beginning to think we should just keep Gil. See how he develops under a Conte training regime. If Conte really disliked him, he'd have left him out of the pre-season squad like he did to many others.
Not sure what he wants as session very rarely beats a man.
Who cares..... Kulu wasn't starting either.
He's productive despite that and has the versatility to tick the boxes that until 2 days ago most thought we needed.
Not as underwhelming as Traore-deluxe.
Just seems to me that people are flip-flopping about what they actually want (shock horror! : P ).
Are few ropey tweets about James & ASM and suddenly peeps are fixated with pacey dribblers all over again and the idea of a creative/productive MF for plan B goes flying out of the window.
Aggrevwith most of what you say but if we play perisic at rwb then that means we have to play sess at LWB. His not proved it yet that he be successful in that role. I’d rather keep perisic at LWB and play spence at rwb. Surely he is good enough to play v forest this weekend? After all he played with most of them in the champo.
Kulu was a young talent who wasn't getting in Juve team who bought some established stars.
I think that's different from a 29yo who is seen as too inconsistent to start regularly for Atalanta.
ASM is a better player than Malinovsky. The only reason we may prefer the latter is because we are stronger at LW than RW in terms of depth already. (Rich>Lucas).
I wanted Maddison too, but it's clear that Conte isn't keen on a creative mid who can convert us to 352. Instead he wants to replace Gil with another winger and stick to 343.
Perisic is 33 and Langley is 27. Biss is PL experienced now having had the chance at Brighton. Why don’t we give some of the younger players we have bought a chance. We can’t keep buying players then say their not ready and loan them only to buy someone else to replace them! That surely is not sustainable!
I would have been more encouraged had it have been Sid James...
ASM is not a player we need with Son and Richarlison covering left forward - both light years beyond ASM.
Currently we have Kulusevski as our creative AM and RW , and no real back up.
We have 4 very credible CM's in Bissouma, Bentancur, Hojbjerg and Skipp - all capable as playing in a DM type role with limited creativity - its clear a purely creative CM CANNOT work in a CM2 so I have no clue why you want one. At best if Conte moves for the odd game to play a CM3 (which probably means no CB 3 so its a huge change for the team) so why are we going to spend a fortune for a player who isn't going to play very much ?
And back to basics if we have a 23 or 24 man squad (7 Locally trained players under UEFA rules plus 17 Overseas trained) which means 2 players for each position plus a 3rtd GK, there is no space to slot in a player 'just in case Maureen likes them'.
So in Conte's squad the big missing piece is a 6th forward, with Kane and Son covered by Richarlison and Moura that leaves the creative forward, Kulusevski without cover. And that is what needs to be brought in now - unless we are convinced Gil can cover that position, and so far that is far from clear. If we can find a player who can rotate with Kulusevski (the main priority) and also play a creative CM role in a CM2 without reducing the defensive strength, great. But we haven't found one yet
What is it that you do not understand ?
Last season:
Malinevsky: Apps 41 / Starts 28 / 10 G / 7 A
ASM: Apps 37 / Starts 32 / 5G / 5A
Sorry mate.... That's baseless rhetoric.
He almost exclusively plays in the middle.
If we're interested in RM it's down his skillset which is vastly different to ASM.
Moura is done, shot, finished, write any word you want but baring injury, suspension, Covid, an earthquake of an invasion from a foreign country he will never start for us ever again.
That is the case and so he needs replacing.
One game worth a shit he turned up. One.
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How many times have we been down that road?
Conte doesn't do "development" and those managers who have actually developed who as a centre forward?
Kane made his debut ten years ago last weekend. Since then who has stepped up from our youths or a player brought in to develop?
Who?
Name one?
Pure whataboutery whch doesn't dispel my retort.
So? Experience is a bad thing?
You mean like Emerson & Sess who were considered fit for the scrapheap?
Kulu the Reject?
Skipp revving up to return.
Plenty of clubs buy young players knowing that they won't drop straight into the first XI.......
You're just throwing random shit at the wall here and none of it is sticking.
Your anti-Conte shit is transparent and tiresome.
Bore off.
Yes but ASM playing in a harder league in a worse league.
ASM's dribbling is also far superior, it has the X-factor.
Anyway this argument is moot as I agree we do not need a LW, so ASM not worth it. Right now I'm of the opinion we should keep Gil.
John Thomas failing to understand anything about squad building
Only interested in scoring points
Quelle surprise for another 'disagree' for an analysis of the squad without explanation.
Hates everyone being reminded of his APPALLING previous lack of judgement.
Seen today in AS Roma - Cremonese: crystal player, he dislocated his shoulder.
Apart from that I was not convinced by his ability to relate to Abraham and Dybala.
He got hurt while he was looking for a one-on-one unsuccessfully.
I also understand Malinovski is very much a set piece guy .. dunno how much that has translated in to g/a but if he's on all of them then it makes sense he'd outproduce ASM. I'd be more interested in seeing how high he ranks on 'big chances created/xA' from open play.
Its clear Conte prefers to sign another RW as cover for Kulusevski if he can - otherwise there would be no rumours of a loan to Valencia for Gil.
I like Gil when I have seen him playing but he's shown very limited productivity (goals/assists) to cover Kulusevski) which is why another RW/RM is being sought