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I think the price for Kane has been clear for years and it starts at 100m

It's never clear unless the person selling makes it clear. And we are talking about this summer, not previous years when Kane wasn't even for sale and even if he was no way would Levy started bidding at 100 mill. 3 or 4 years ago the price would have been 170-200 mill.
 
Tonali reluctantly agreed to go. Bastoni didn’t

You finding a shit third party source that claims that he did is not equivalent to someone else — forgot who it was — posting a direct quote from the player himself that counters your claim.
Not all evidence is equal.
Reading that, the headline was totally sensationalised in relation to the actual quote from the player. He essentially gave the PR equivalent of no comment.
 
It's never clear unless the person selling makes it clear. And we are talking about this summer, not previous years when Kane wasn't even for sale and even if he was no way would Levy started bidding at 100 mill. 3 or 4 years ago the price would have been 170-200 mill.

If City offered us 100m base fee with realistic add-ons leading up to potentially 120-130m back in 2021 - we'd have accepted it. No doubt about it.
 
Im getting targeted here for having a non compliant opinion.

Wait til I tell you all I’m not vaccinated and I believe in Aliens
Have you seen the news lately? It seems that the Yanks DO have alien corpses and a crashed UFO.

So the X Files was actually a documentary?

Jimmy Fallon Laughing GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
 
If we weren't happy with any fees quoted for Tapsoba - I am surprised we didn't try and go for Bassey, who Fulham have just signed.

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I didn't catch him at Ajax - but I was always impressed when I watched him for Rangers. Especially during that run to the Europa League final. Was in the Leicester academy, so he may even have counted as HG, left footed, also capable of playing left back.
He's a decent player but nowhere near the level imo. Disaster at times recieving the ball, just lots of little things in possession that have him a step below what we need to be signing.
 
Incredibly relaxed about selling Kane, it's the right thing to do with the position we're in. Hes 30yo with one year on his contract. We no longer intend on playing football that requires the centre forward to be chief link-man, scorer, creator. This notion that he has 5/6yrs left at the very top of his game is fanciful. Wish him the very best of luck abroad.

Not so relaxed about how we spend the money and improve our squad. Tapsoba, VDV and a player for the front three with world class potential would be fun though.
 
That's the one.

Wasn't it based on a true life story?


















There's gonna be people reading that second line who think I'm being serious🤣
You know you joke …. But in many respects it is based on the oldest financial scam of the Nathan Rothschild fiasco

after the battle of Waterloo

‘ buy when there’s blood on the streets’ is s coined trading term now but it was taken from literal events

Any how I’ve cut and paste the story cos it’s a goodun

So yeah …. Was based on a true story (I’m certain it’s happened many many times since)

200 years might have passed since Napoleon was defeated at Waterloo. But some things in war - and finance - do not change, such as the absolute importance of being ahead of the game. Nathan Rothschild cleaned up on the Gilt market thanks to his rapid, reliable, and finely honed communications system that brought him news of Wellington's victory ahead of anyone else in Westminster and the City.

Old Money is written by Professor Richard Roberts of Kings College


London, the official historian of HSBC and Schroders


The Battle of Waterloo on June 18, 1815 - 200 years ago this week - finally banished the spectre of Napoleon's domination of


Europe. No one was more delighted than the denizens of the London Stock Exchange, Nathan Rothschild especially, as Gilts soared on the good news.


For the preceding two decades of war since the French Revolution, bond prices had been buffeted by news from battlefields. A victory by Britain or its allies sent prices north since it reduced the risks of defeat, default and more government borrowing. A defeat sent prices south for opposite reasons.
These conditions provided plenty of opportunity for market manipulation through The manufacture of battlefield news given
that information travelled at the speed of horses and sailing ships.


The most notorious scam occurred in


February 1814.


Napoleon was in trouble and his fall seemed likely. A bungling concert party of speculators built up huge positions in Gilts expecting prices to rise. The plan was to trade "within the account", meaning that they only had to put up a modest amount of margin. But then came news of French successes that left them facing large losses.


Two days before the end of the account, an officer dressed in the uniform of aide de camp to the British commander in France appeared in Dover in the middle of the night claiming to have just crossed the Channel with urgent news. Napoleon had been killed by Cossacks and The French monarchy restored. He sent word
to the Dover Port Admiral evidently hoping that he would inform the government via the Admiralty's system of semaphore relay stations resulting in an official release announcement. But it was too foggy for the semaphore system to operate.


The next day around noon, an open carriage containing three men dressed as French Royalist officers crying "Vive Le Roi" drove around the City.


Again, the story was that Napoleon was dead and the French monarchy restored.


They then supposedly set off for Downing Street to tell the Prime Minister. The appearance of the "royalists" and their news was a tonic for Gilt prices that rose 20%.


But they slumped again when Stock


Exchange messengers to Whitehall returned without confirmation.

The authorities were unamused by the pantomime hoax.

The Stock Exchange quickly identified sales by seven individuals that "stank to high


Heaven".


Sensationally their number included Lord Cochrane MP, a naval hero (and real-life model for Horatio Hornblower RN). They were found guilty of fraud and jailed for a year. Cochrane went abroad and commanded the Chilean and Brazilian navies in their wars of independence, enjoying markedly greater success than in Gilt manipulation.


Rothschild


Nathan Rothschild, founder of the London firm, was supremely aware of the value of early and accurate information. His firm's fortune was made by supplying the Duke of Wellington's army in Spain and France with gold and silver coin to pay the troops.


Rapid and reliable communications were crucial for his complex and risky payments and arbitrage operations. He set up a private courier system with shipping agents in Dover, Calais and Ostend with fast light vessels ready to sail at any time. There were relays of horses to speed messages from the Channel to London. And a farm on the coast at Hythe for courier pigeons.


As night descended at Waterloo on June 18


a Rothschild agent dashed to Dunkirk.


Conveyed by a Rothschild ship and


Rothschild steeds, Nathan received news of the victory on the night of Monday 19th - just 24 hours afterwards. Wellington's official messenger didn't arrive until Wednesday evening.


In the meantime, Nathan called on the Prime Minister but was refused entry by a butler, because the PM was resting.
His duty done, he proceeded to the Stock Exchange where he was in sole possession of the momentous news. It is not known how much Rothschild made from Waterloo but it must have been a great deal. The collective assets of the five Rothschild brothers in spring 1815 came to £500,000 (at a time when the average wage was about £50 per year); in July 1816 it was £1 million.


The Iron Duke observed that Waterloo Was:


'A damn close-run thing - the nearest run thing you ever saw in your life." Maybe on the battlefield, but not on the Stock Exchange with Rothschild's information system.
 
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