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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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Why do three years? That can fluctuate.

Here's the last 10:

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- Less than Newcastle, who make 1/2 our revenue and spent most of this period circling the drain.

- £400m less than Woolwich, who spent most of the last decade (1) below us in the league and (2) outside of the CL. Now in just two years since we beat them to 4th spot under Conte we've not looked further behind them since the early 00s. Shows the difference between having an owner who understands the concept of investing in your squad versus one focused on investing in infrastructure and milking his cash cow.

- Roughly equivalent net spend to West Ham, who've spent much of this period circling the relegation zone, and Villa, who spent half of it in the Championship.

- Worth noting Spurs' net spend has increased in the last couple of years, but we're still paying the price for the years of underinvestment under Poch. It's not the sort of ambition that justifies charging the highest ticket prices in world football, particularly when we have a massive FFP leeway that would enable us to invest significantly if we wanted. People used to mock Kroenke, he'd absolutely kill it with this club. Take him a million times over Levy.

- Side note, Liverpool show that it's not all about net spend so long as you have incredible data and recruitment set up and one of the world's best managers. We'll see how long they can maintain their overperformance without Klopp. Should also be noted their wage bill dwarfs ours and this is the closest predictor of league finish.

The 10 year period is actually not relevant for us - half of that is spend based upon our revenues at WHL.

Moving to the new stadium, starting post covid, has increased our revenues a lot and whilst revenues (particularly sponsorships, concerts etc) take a bit of time to build up we are now earning double our WHL revenues which is why we spent circa £150m gross in each of last 2 summer windows. So the last 3 years spend are far more relevant for Spurs.
 
The 10 year period is actually not relevant for us - half of that is spend based upon our revenues at WHL.

Moving to the new stadium, starting post covid, has increased our revenues a lot and whilst revenues (particularly sponsorships, concerts etc) take a bit of time to build up we are now earning double our WHL revenues which is why we spent circa £150m gross in each of last 2 summer windows. So the last 3 years spend are far more relevant for Spurs.
Point taken about the extra stadium revenues, but that still doesn't explain why we're paying WHL level wages.
 
Point taken about the extra stadium revenues, but that still doesn't explain why we're paying WHL level wages.

Our wages have moved up a level, but its not always noticeable as all available data is on 'older established' players on highish wages being replaced by younger lower waged players.

I'd bet Vicario and Van de Venn were not on high wages before and joined Spurs on much higher (but still not high in PL terms), but given last season will be offered bigger wages and extended contract over next year whereas Dier (on high wages) will be coming off our payroll - so we are still in the period of offloading some high wage players and bringing in lower wage hungry players to whom we will offer higher wages shortly (Sarr will be another example).
 
Liverpool were very lucky in that Barca paid 140m for Coutinho who was probably barely worth 50m They were able to buy world class kpr and centre back. Never looked back.
They might be lucky again if the Saudis come for Salah with a bucket of money.
And therein lies the difference.

No luck about it. If they sell a world class player for an astronomical fee they'll reinvest it in another world class player (or two) with a view to risk reaping reward.

We don't. We hedge our bets and spread it around on mediocre shit or a promising youngster or two.

Hence their supporters get the odd taste of glory that we always miss out on.
 
The Summer before was the real killer. An absolutely disgraceful act of negligence.
ENIC deserved to be hounded out the club there and then.


Players have 'agency'

So in 2018 Frenkie de Jong decided he wanted to spend more time at Ajax before a Barcelona move, as reported in 2019 in an interview.

Problem is Poch decided de Jong was the one and he didn't have a Plan B when de Jong eventually said 'no thanks'.

That's why we have gone back to a professional recruitment team.
 
Liverpool were very lucky in that Barca paid 140m for Coutinho who was probably barely worth 50m They were able to buy world class kpr and centre back. Never looked back.
They might be lucky again if the Saudis come for Salah with a bucket of money.

Not luck though is it? It's mentality. They turned their big asset into 2 world class assets. We have consistently turned our biggest asset into 4 or 5, even 7 assets.

If we had sold Kane for 140m to City that wouldn't have made us any more willing to shop for record transfer players and pay them the type of wages that Liverpool do.
 
Cant spend big money on players can’t beat Brentford to signing a youngster out of the championship. What the fuck can we actually do?

A lot of noise over this new transfer set up but they’ve got it all to prove after paratici and gabbiadini.
 
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Can spend big money on players can’t beat Brentford to signing a youngster out of the championship. What the fuck can we actually do?

A lot of noise over this new transfer set up but they’ve got it all to prove after paratici and gabbiadini.

This transfer window has just felt shady from the start.

I get that it's early yadda yadda and there will be links to get everyone talking again but as much as I am boring for banging on about it... That Werner transfer getting done early told us everything we need to know about the budget the club wants to put up for this transfer window.
 
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