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Competition The “They’re really going to have a World Cup in QATAR?” Thread

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yeah your probably all correct what am I talking about……Qatar v Ecuador , Poland v Saudi Arabia & Canada v Morocco will go down in World Cup folklore classics in our modern times…….fuck Italy 🇮🇹















now hope theres % left on my planner………..
 
Pathfinder said:
www.thesun.co.uk

Fans face splashing out £9k PER NIGHT to stay in Qatar for World Cup

ENGLAND fans will be forced to break the bank to follow the Three Lions at the World Cup in mega-wealthy Qatar. Our investigation there shows supporters could end up splashing out more than £9,000 …
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BIG DOUGH IN DOHA

England fans will be forced to pay £9k PER NIGHT to stay in Qatar for World Cup​


ENGLAND fans will be forced to break the bank to follow the Three Lions at the World Cup in mega-wealthy Qatar.
Our investigation there shows supporters will have to splash out more than £9,000 per night on a hotel.

And Qatar sells the most expensive beer in the world, with a pint of Heineken at £11.50. Wine is around £11 a glass.

Fans will also have to fork out on direct return flights costing £1,063 and £724 for match tickets.

Also, anyone caught boozing in public in the strict Middle East state faces six months’ jail.

And beer will only be available in special zones around stadiums and some venues elsewhere in the capital Doha. Fans will have to book hotel rooms to guarantee late-night pints.

Eight stadiums costing £5.2billion have been built and another £150billion has been spent on transport and general infrastructure for the first World Cup to be held in the Middle East.

But Dubai is only about the size of Yorkshire and may not be big enough to accommodate the 1.5million fans expected to flood in.

Most hotels are already sold out and prices for the few rooms still available for the tournament starting on November 21, such as at the Four Seasons in Doha, are soaring.

For those lucky enough to be there to follow manager Gareth Southgate’s Three Lions, the only place to buy “take home” booze is The Qatar Distribution Company — and customers need a special permit proving they are residents.

We visited it and found that a black market trade was operating outside its front gates, with crates of beer being passed from one car boot to another — risking a jail sentence of at least six months.

Usually booze is only available in hotels but fans travelling to Qatar will at least be able to enjoy a pre-match pint after it was announced alcohol will be served in kiosks outside stadiums for ticket-holders and at other venues including Beach Clubs in Doha.

Qatar tourism chief Berthold Trenkel outlined the special measures that will be put in place during the tournament to let thirsty fans get a drink in the desert heat.

But he warned: “It will be different inside the actual stadiums. There will only be zero alcohol beer actually inside.”


The Beach Clubs are a late addition and a further sign of the country’s willingness to bend its normal rules and regulations for the duration of the tournament.

But expats warned fans could still be facing a “culture shock”.

Angela Norton and husband Chris, both 60, emigrated from Chester seven years ago so she could take a hospital job and he could enjoy his retirement.

She said: “There are lots of rules they won’t be aware of like the need for women to cover up in malls.

“If you wear shorts or a little dress you will get told off and the other women will spit at you.


“The cost of alcohol is so high that most expats only drink at happy hour between 5pm and 8pm where a pint of beer is still nearly £8.

“Drinking in public is banned and if you try, the police will turn up and take you to jail. There are CCTV cameras everywhere.”

Buying alcohol in corner shops, supermarkets and most restaurants is impossible. And the hotel booze prices are eye-watering.

Poor immigrant workers, and the 350,000 native Qataris forbidden from drinking under strict Islamic laws, can only consume the 0 per cent beer — or resort to illegal bootleg liquor.


It is often sold in industrial zones for £3 a litre but can contain butanol and pentanol, two industrial alcohols known to cause brain and eye damage.

But worker Faisal Ansari, 22, originally from Nepal, said: “The work is good. I have been here for two years and I will be supporting Qatar during the World Cup.”

The England squad, given an easy-looking draw on Friday for the group stage, are due to stay at Qatar’s alcohol-free Souq Al Wakra hotel — at the end of a maze of winding, narrow roads, next to a huge mosque.

They will train at a nearby stadium but there are concerns the lack of activities at the hotel, which does not even boast a swimming pool, will leave the players feeling restless and bored.
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Sounds like an old rehashed bullcrap article about Dubai from about 10 years ago. At one point they even say Dubai instead of Doha.

Everything stated in the article is a Google search away from being shot down
 
Eli said:
yeah your probably all correct what am I talking about……Qatar v Ecuador , Poland v Saudi Arabia & Canada v Morocco will go down in World Cup folklore classics in our modern times…….fuck Italy 🇮🇹















now hope theres % left on my planner………..
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They weren’t good enough, so why are you moaning.

They weren’t even playing exciting football so you’re just thinking of the name!

Qatar vs Ecuador, whilst hardly an attractive sounding tie, has every potential of being an open game with plenty of goals.

There’s been some right unexpected bangers in prev tournaments
 
Fazz said:
I understand what you're saying and agree with many of your points, especially with regards to the removal of oppression. The problem as I partly stated in my previous post is first, convincingly arguing for an objective moral standard and then secondly, demonstrating that failure to uphold that moral standard is oppressive. Does the will of the people count when it comes to the morals/laws they want for their own nation? If not, how illiberal are you prepared to get to enforce your Liberal values on people who don't want them?

There's no easy answer outside of ones own echo chamber. I genuinely believe no Qatari believes their promotion of traditional family values and demotion of anything that contradicts that including gay marriage is oppressive. When these conversations happen over there, people point to the growing disintegration of tradition families in certain countries in the West as further evidence of why enforcing their own societal code is not only necessary, but something that is fundamentally holding their whole society together.

To us in the West, it may not make sense at all. We celebrate individualism here. But in the East, family ties trump individualism all day and twice on a Sunday. They view society as starting at the family level. The families form a small community. The communities form a town. And the towns form the nation. An individuals desires are secondary to that of the family/society.
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I don’t think there’s a desire to impose our values on Qataris. I think people are simply stating why (some of) their values are better. The denial of rights based on accidents of birth is incompatible with a genuine respect for all. This is about equality more than liberty (although it is about both).

The only response that is not factually wrong that I can imagine from a Qatari is that their religion (God) says that rights can be deprived on the basis of accidents of birth. This is a kind of special pleading which creates the kinds of echo chambers you talk about - religious arguments leave us with nowhere to go which is why religion has caused so many conflicts.

“Don’t arbitrarily discriminate based on characteristics people don’t choose”

“My God says I can”

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Most westerners have no interaction with Qataris or Qatar but are still appalled by this denial of rights. Talking about it is really the only avenue we have to criticise. We’re hardly going to lobby the Qatari government to change and calling out injustice is not the same as imposing one’s views.
 
LeParisien said:
Most westerners have no interaction with Qataris or Qatar but are still appalled by this denial of rights. Talking about it is really the only avenue we have to criticise. We’re hardly going to lobby the Qatari government to change and calling out injustice is not the same as imposing one’s views.
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I think even more to the point: this is (generally) far more of a criticism of FIFA than Qatar in the first place.

Less of a "we should reform Qatar" the boycott is simply "if Qatar is this way and doesn't want to be any other way, then why did FIFA reward them with the world's tournament?"

And we all know the answer is: money. Boycotting the tournament deprives them of (at least one's own) money, and I think that's a perfectly fair and reasonable stance.

But then again we shouldn't be surprised. People have brought up Brazil and Russia, and rightly so, but the world seems to forget that 1978 was held in a country ruled by a military junta. FIFA has been stinky for quite a while.
 
FutureSkipper said:
WTF

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