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The way I see it, three things undid us today over the lenght of the game:
1) Our pressing game is too hesitant and too incoherent. Many people argue, that pressing is reactive, is about running around a lot and is just unfashionable. We need a much more coherent pressure and we need the backline up, at least 5-10 meters at certain times, to strangle that space in which the opposition can play.
2) Meaningful possession. Much needed. Right now we attack all the time, trying too hard and too laboured to create chances. Of which we actually create very few open ones. We are in a limbo of not quite playing possession based pass-and-move attacking football and playing counterattacking football. Apart from the fact, that we can't keep the ball patienly enough to actually carve up defences nor attack quick enough to bypass them on the counter. We desperately need another player like Dembéle for the attacking third, effectively Rafa's role last season, to control the tempo of the game.
3) Winning 2nd balls outside both boxes. Now this dead horse is not nearly flogged quite enough yet. I have no stats to give you, but on visual merit we must be one of the worst teams at winning 2nd balls cleared out of either defence in those 15-20 yards in half circle outside either penalty kick spot. Bloody hell. Headed clearence or kicked, high or low, hammered or gently lobbed, it matters not. Spurs are almost always last to those balls. In the Premier League, that's just not on. Sorry, it's not.
And it's not the first time these three symptoms are emerging. Point 3) was an issue too in all Harrys time and even before. So was the lack of patience in 2). And 1) was a huge issue before Parker came in.
Btw, I see a fair few people mentioning the subs. Appearently they were wrong, too late, too early or just shit players. The way I see it, AVB had little choice. Sure, I'd perhaps (with limited knowledge of a fan) have put on Townsend on first for Defoe (so shore up left side and add pace on the break), then Gylfi for Dembélé (who was injured, appearently) and lastly (diving for cover) I'd bring on Naughton for Lennon (presuming Lennon was spent) and let Walker move to RM.
No matter my choices, the bench today was as good as we get with the present injuries. No it was. The squad is what we have, and for the record it is not nearly as good as last season. I'd happily take all of Niko, Corluka and
Therefore I don't get why people lash out at AVB. What the hell can he do ? I am quite certain he is well aware, that some names on that bench are not nearly good enough for us and some of the starters even. But before January little can be done.
For next game, if Dawson is not fit, I'd move Vertonghen inside with Caulker and let Towsend play left back. He's played emergency left back before and did ok. Certainly more at ease than Naughton.
I love this post.
Totally on the money imo.
One thing I would add is if people like Townsend cant get a game when Bale is out the squad, whats the point of having him at Spurs - need some competition for Bale and Lennon. Easier said than done of course.
Thats my point.Townsend always flatter to deceive though doesn't he. Is he really any good?
Thats my point.
I agree but just feel like is he ever going to kick on? If your main competition for your place is out the team you would/should be playing....if you are good enough.I suppose we should give the guy a chance. Maybe he will get a run against Swansea. I know Ben Davies for one is vulnerable to pace. And Rangel will not be able to get forward as much if he has a winger to worry about.
I agree but just feel like is he ever going to kick on? If your main competition for your place is out the team you would/should be playing....if you are good enough.
And your just some out of town yank, what you going to do? No point me giving a name when a bunch of Internet zoids are just going to say "he's employed elsewhere"
He will be coming free before long, don't worry you'll be the first to know
And your just some out of town yank, what you going to do? No point me giving a name when a bunch of Internet zoids are just going to say "he's employed elsewhere"
He will be coming free before long, don't worry you'll be the first to know