The problem is now clear

  • The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

I'm fucking tired of trigger happy fans already. It would be better if I stay off these forums while we're going through this cycle. Hopefully at the end of it you'll be eating your words you fucking spoiled, impatient bunch of brats.

Shame you’ll be missed with your endless ‘he’s magic you know’, ‘trophies will come’ ‘best manager in my lifetime’ spiel. To claim our supporters are being impatient after 11 years with no trophy 6 of which this manager has been in charge is laughably ignorant. It’s says all about you when you believe this supporterbase is spoiled.
 
We are in such an awkward situation now, I think we have stagnated because it has just been the same team for too long. We have a lot of good individual players and the likes of Eriksen and Dele if they were to leave would definitely excel elsewhere. I think we do need to rejuvenate our squad a bit - players like Dier and even Dele have probably not progressed as far as we would have hoped, meaning we are in an awkward middle ground. I think Winks is a brilliant player but that is comparison to what we have, not the rest of the league. We are relying on him to be our best midfielder which I don't think is fair on him at this stage of his career.

To be honest I don't think anybody is blameless here, but I am certain in my opinion that simply changing the coach wouldn't fix it and it saddens me how quickly some people have turned their backs on the best Tottenham manager in my lifetime. I just hope he is given the opportunity to turn this round because if he was to go to Real Madrid I would not be surprised to see Kane, Lloris and Eriksen follow him there (he did bring a few Southampton players here remember). We don't want to be in a position where we have to replace an entire squad while being in the Europa like United, we need to keep hold of key players like Kane, Toby, Jan, Lloris, Son and Dele so we have a bit of a spine to work with when rebuilding.
 
Not everyone is calling for Poch's head, but at this minute in time, Poch seems to have lost control of the team and that's a very dangerous situation to be in.

As I said last night, 4 months ago we were contesting the final of the biggest competition in our history, now we're out of the Carabao (or whoever the fuck sponsors it) cup having drawn a blank (2 shots on target) against a 4th tier side. Something is wrong.

For what it's worth, has there ever been a club where so many have been hinting at or leaving at the same time?

And include the manager in that equation. His, if I win I may leave isn't a message of confidence for players.
 
I would say the problem is anything but clear. You can legitimately blame Levy, Poch, and the players. They all have a hand in this mess.
 
State of this utter clown fire of a thread. Look at the self entitled Woolwich lite bunch of pricks calling for poch out. Cunts one and all.

I get exactly what you’re saying mate but something is seriously wrong and has been for a long time

Surely you can see that something drastic needs to happen

Poch looks really unhappy and unsettled so that’s bound to manifest itself in the team
 
We are in such an awkward situation now, I think we have stagnated because it has just been the same team for too long. We have a lot of good individual players and the likes of Eriksen and Dele if they were to leave would definitely excel elsewhere. I think we do need to rejuvenate our squad a bit - players like Dier and even Dele have probably not progressed as far as we would have hoped, meaning we are in an awkward middle ground. I think Winks is a brilliant player but that is comparison to what we have, not the rest of the league. We are relying on him to be our best midfielder which I don't think is fair on him at this stage of his career.

To be honest I don't think anybody is blameless here, but I am certain in my opinion that simply changing the coach wouldn't fix it and it saddens me how quickly some people have turned their backs on the best Tottenham manager in my lifetime. I just hope he is given the opportunity to turn this round because if he was to go to Real Madrid I would not be surprised to see Kane, Lloris and Eriksen follow him there (he did bring a few Southampton players here remember). We don't want to be in a position where we have to replace an entire squad while being in the Europa like United, we need to keep hold of key players like Kane, Toby, Jan, Lloris, Son and Dele so we have a bit of a spine to work with when rebuilding.
No way he'll take Eriksen and Lloris there! Don't think they'll want them 2 frankly.
 
I wonder how much Poch's favourites is impacting on the rest of the squad.

How did the wider squad accept Eriksen's outburst prior to the CL final?

How did the squad accept Kane being bulldozed in to the CL final starting line up at the cost of Lucas?

What is the current mental state of Eriksen, Rose, Alderweireld, Vertonghen and Aurier.

Does Hugo inspire confidence? Not only on the pitch but with his talk of leaving.

So many questions
 
Spurs fans really are fickle, ungrateful stupid cunts.

Even once we get past this blip (which we will) I wouldn't want to enjoy the good times with some of you morons. Shown your aftv colours.
Blips don't last 9 months and come with players wanting to jump ship but the manager putting all his faith in them.
 
Spurs fans really are fickle, ungrateful stupid cunts.

Even once we get past this blip (which we will) I wouldn't want to enjoy the good times with some of you morons. Shown your aftv colours.
C623897-B-A62-B-4-DCE-BE08-2-C0-D8-AB305-CC.jpg

Right you are sir.
 
Spurs fans really are fickle, ungrateful stupid cunts.

Even once we get past this blip (which we will) I wouldn't want to enjoy the good times with some of you morons. Shown your aftv colours.

Haha, the manager has said three times this season (which is six weeks old) that we have problems in the squad, players have their own agendas, some players want out, there is no harmony and his worst time in five years.

#blip
 
I wonder how much Poch's favourites is impacting on the rest of the squad.

How did the wider squad accept Eriksen's outburst prior to the CL final?

How did the squad accept Kane being bulldozed in to the CL final starting line up at the cost of Lucas?

What is the current mental state of Eriksen, Rose, Alderweireld, Vertonghen and Aurier.

Does Hugo inspire confidence? Not only on the pitch but with his talk of leaving.

So many questions

All fair points.

My main beef with Poch is a lack of ruthlessness.

Why does he persist with playing Eriksen and Wanyama at this state?

Why doesn't he walk the talk with troublemakers, and boot them from the first team?

Why doesn't he simply drop players who e.g. refuse to press, e.g. his own comments?
 
All fair points.

My main beef with Poch is a lack of ruthlessness.

Why does he persist with playing Eriksen and Wanyama at this state?

Why doesn't he walk the talk with troublemakers, and boot them from the first team?

Why doesn't he simply drop players who e.g. refuse to press, e.g. his own comments?
In return, all equally fair points.

Sadly I think Poch has thought "I made it successful with that player, he needs to play".

For Poch to take the stance on these players he needs to drop half his current starting squad.

The time is coming where Poch will have absolutely no choice but to do this. And that scares me somewhat!
 
Back
Top Bottom