A few on this site would be great role models then..
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Poch has said it himself, he wants a complete overhaul of the squad and we will be very busy in the next transfer windows. His comments over the last couple of windows suggests that he doesn't have full backing of Levy - and maybe quite rightly so, no coach should expect such a high volume of transfer activity in such an over inflated market.
So; where does that leave our current crop of players? Why would they make an effort if they are not wanted?
Jan, Toby, Rose, Wanyama , Eriksen, Sissoko - Gone. Either too old or want out.
Alli, Moura, Aurier - Probably gone. Alli would need a club to match his decent wages. PSG or Liverpool would be my bet.
Son, Kane, Ndombele - These seem to be the only first 11 players that Poch intends to keep
Winks, Lamela, Dier, Davies - Decent squad players. Probably staying.
Foyth, KWP, Skipp, Sess, Lo Celso - Need to prove themselves, but looking like they are staying.
So, its stick or twist time. Facts are
1. We don't get champions league next year. 6th at best this season.
2. Unless we buy established mature players, we may not get top 4 again until 2022/23 at best. Woolwich, United and Chelsea's rebuilds may have matured by then.
3. Son and Kane will be looking at (2) and wondering about the future - does they want to end their career with no trophies?
The fact we signed Ndombele and went in for Dybala is a sign of intend to indeed sign some established players so that the rebuild will not take 3 or 4 seasons. However, as we saw at United, Chelsea this is a difficult task to get right and youth and time may be the answer.
So; where does that leave our current crop of players? Why would they make an effort if they are not wanted?
Jan, Toby, Rose, Wanyama , Eriksen, Sissoko - Gone. Either too old or want out.
Alli, Moura, Aurier - Probably gone. Alli would need a club to match his decent wages. PSG or Liverpool would be my bet.
Son, Kane, Ndombele - These seem to be the only first 11 players that Poch intends to keep
Winks, Lamela, Dier, Davies - Decent squad players. Probably staying.
Foyth, KWP, Skipp, Sess, Lo Celso - Need to prove themselves, but looking like they are staying.
So, its stick or twist time. Facts are
1. We don't get champions league next year. 6th at best this season.
2. Unless we buy established mature players, we may not get top 4 again until 2022/23 at best. Woolwich, United and Chelsea's rebuilds may have matured by then.
3. Son and Kane will be looking at (2) and wondering about the future - does they want to end their career with no trophies?
The fact we signed Ndombele and went in for Dybala is a sign of intend to indeed sign some established players so that the rebuild will not take 3 or 4 seasons. However, as we saw at United, Chelsea this is a difficult task to get right and youth and time may be the answer.
A well drilled organised side mate, yes,But a well drilled organised side from 3 leagues below us .
Lets not dress this up.Last night was an embarrassment.
I wonder how much Poch's favourites is impacting on the rest of the squad.
How did the wider squad accept Eriksen's outburst prior to the CL final?
How did the squad accept Kane being bulldozed in to the CL final starting line up at the cost of Lucas?
What is the current mental state of Eriksen, Rose, Alderweireld, Vertonghen and Aurier.
Does Hugo inspire confidence? Not only on the pitch but with his talk of leaving.
So many questions
How did the wider squad accept Eriksen's outburst prior to the CL final?
How did the squad accept Kane being bulldozed in to the CL final starting line up at the cost of Lucas?
What is the current mental state of Eriksen, Rose, Alderweireld, Vertonghen and Aurier.
Does Hugo inspire confidence? Not only on the pitch but with his talk of leaving.
So many questions
But what if it’s his fault?
He’s lost the dressing room. What if Kane is part of this revolution? Shall we fuck him too to keep the manager?
People need to understand a few things;
Levy is going nowhere
We are not getting a new squad
So do the maths, that’s it
But thats all we can do. We have no say in the running of the club....What difference does anything we say in here make?
Do you think Daniel's first thing on his to do list each morning is checking our forums?
I'm sure you fantasize about him telling Pochettino that ''The Hood on TFC doesn't rate you chum, time to go''....
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I agree with every word he said. I would have said the same,except I would have said it in English, obviously...
Jokes aside,make him 100% right.
How fucking funny is it to see people inventing scenarios and and then berating whoever their pet hate is for their fevered imagination.
Everyone claiming to be the "right type" of fan.
I get the distinct impression that there are people who post on here would accept the disintegration of the club if their fantasies come to fruition rather than the club to succeed and their personal view turn out to be bollocks.
Everyone claiming to be the "right type" of fan.
I get the distinct impression that there are people who post on here would accept the disintegration of the club if their fantasies come to fruition rather than the club to succeed and their personal view turn out to be bollocks.
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Agreed.
A few points: Everyone's perspective 'feels' right to them. It's based on their experience, their filters, their conditioning. You can't argue with feelings. They're special.
One thing to bear in mind when *feeling* like responding to someone who is criticising your views, is that your ego, a grizzled street-plodder to whom the motto "SERVE AND PROTECT" long ago fell into irony, sees someone making a public attack on your opinions as a blasphemous attack on your own pure divinity.
To Ego, their contradicting view is an African American person with a chocolate bar in their hand. Ego identifies the clear and present danger. Ego thinks "HE'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!" and wants to shoot first and maybe replace the chocolate bar with a deadly weapon later. Ego has had a lot of coffee. Ego's wife left it and moved to the West coast. Ego's kid's call it 'Eggo'. In short: Ego wants to prove itself.
The way to 'win' is to acknowledge your ego is just a trigger-happy, out-dated warden, trying to find threats where they don't exist. It's got a life-times worth of ill-informed anachronistic prejudices and it wants to vindicate itself in any way it can. See it. Feel it. And then tell it to stand down. "That'll do, Ego, that'll do. Thank you for your service. Now step aside, the commissioner is talking."
With that out of the way, you are free to take on board your fellow fan's views as a point of reference (i.e. information that you previously didn't have) and see for yourself how it can be factored into a well-rounded and more accurate perspective.
Hey, we lost narrowly to a pretty good side. Did you not readVoiceOfThePoshSeats recent posting ??
I also read how people like me are celebrating this........people like me who have been disgusted with our stye of play. How´s that work?
On the flip side, I look forward to John Thomas and others to be celebrating every loss, and poor sub from any new manager that comes in, and hope we finith 16th and play shit so they can " be right".
CL final=Levy Out
12th = Levy Out
Lets buy a new squad every 3 years
Oh jeebus. We were like rabbits in the headlights from the start of that match and Liverpool were shite.
Seems to me, we still don't know our standing in the game.
All fair points.
My main beef with Poch is a lack of ruthlessness.
Why does he persist with playing Eriksen and Wanyama at this state?
Why doesn't he walk the talk with troublemakers, and boot them from the first team?
Why doesn't he simply drop players who e.g. refuse to press, e.g. his own comments?
It's tough coming into a team that's playing shit.
I really do admire your confidence in the guy, honestly....but first I see him celebrate the closing of a transfer window because it allows everyone to settle and focus. Then just weeks later expresses a desire for the January window to come so he can begin to address current problems.
What the players (particularly Kane and Son) must think of all this will be hardly beneficial to overall morale and confidence. To simply drop everything on Levy's head is just dodging the bullets. Poch has to have accountability for team performances and results, if he hasn't then what the fuck is he getting paid £8m a year for ???
Yeah, there isn't too many people who you'd want to be beside you in the trenches, they're not good in a crisis...then there's the cunts saying "We're fucking doomed, but the good news is that I was right all along"...
