I agree. I also don’t doubt if they somehow lose 9 of their last 13, we would lose 10
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We care what the competition around us does - obviously.
As for Spurs..
I'm not going to believe we aren't capable of winning all of these.
We often have reasonably strong finishes to seasons, but could see us getting 14+ pts from a possible 18.
(H) Woolwich
(H) West Ham
(H) Newcastle
(H) Brighton
(H) Leicester
(H) Burnley
A lot of our inconsistency has been on the road, 6-2-6. Can see us losing 2 of these for sure, but getting 9-10 points is doable.
(A) Brighton
(A) Villa
(A) Brentford
(A) Liverpool
(A) Norwich
Getting 64-68 points would feel like par for course for us this season.
For that to be enough is a long shot - but not impossible.
For other teams around us to shit the bed is also very possible.
You're probably right. But the really sad thing is it doesn’t have to be this way.
We have the history. We have the prestige. We have the money. We have the location. And most importantly, we have the fanbase to achieve so,so much more.
All we're lacking is owners that actually give a shit about football
Our competition isn't Woolwich now. It is Wolves and West Ham for EL spots.
'I'm not going to believe what my eyes are telling me'.
You pal are as deluded as most of our squad thinking they are playing at top four level. It's you that needs to get a fucking grip and wake the fuck up! Tell you what meet up and the next home game and I will bang on what ever wager you want and I will match it that we don't make top 4.
This statement has pretty much saved me typing it up so thanks mate.
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We just have to go out to win every game and see where it takes us.
I'm not the sort of fan that leaves before the full time whistle.
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What odds will you give me?
Absolutely spot on. This current crop of players will win absolutely nothing. That losers culture is now so deep-rooted it feels like we've just accepted it now.
Let's face it, even the cup exits to the minnows now just feel completely predictable.
Those who still support ENIC after 21 years have definitely accepted it. They're as much the problem as ENIC themselves if we're honest about it.
Please explain exactly how a ‘fanbase’ somehow directly translates to achievement on the pitch.
Even that is arguable — in the international game, Alex Morgan has a greater following than Spurs (which was the reason we signed her on loan).
As for history, pre-EPL history is pretty meaningless at this point, Villa had more FA cup success than anyone. They haven’t won anything in forever. They missed the EPL explosion and the opportunities that came with it.
Chelsea had no history before 2003. It simply didn’t matter.
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History generates a ton of match day revenue. The people paying the ridiculous hospitality pricing (standard tickets too) are products of that historic standing (pre ENIC). The ambition and glory have been whittled away under that bald locust but that’s the link between fanbase to revenue to onpitch
History generates a ton of match day revenue. The people paying the ridiculous hospitality pricing (standard tickets too) are products of that historic standing (pre ENIC). The ambition and glory have been whittled away under that bald locust but that’s the link between fanbase to revenue to onpitch
and we know where we stand with the others teams in the EPL in terms of revenue. About 200 million pounds behind no-history Man City in 20/21. So, again, tell me where winning the FA Cup in 1951 has gotten us?
and we know where we stand with the others teams in the EPL in terms of revenue. About 200 million pounds behind no-history Man City in 20/21. So, again, tell me where winning the FA Cup in 1951 has gotten us?
We won the league in 51 ( not FA cup) , Rowe's push and run was revolutionary and outstanding. . It was our glory which under these Enic cunts they have sucked us dry .
Blimey get your history right sunshine it's all we got .
Sorry. My bad on the history. Lazy of me.
It doesn’t change the fact that our fanbase and history contribute to us being exactly 5th in terms of revenue.
5th in terms of revenue…. Probably buys you 5th.
It is what it is.
In a much better position from a revenue perspective than others eg Villa, Everton (arguably peers from the previous big 6) and comparable to Liverpool, Utd and Woolwich in matchday revenue.
City are a completely outlier like Putin’s lot and the Geordie Jihadi’s
I share your frustration, but to write off the impact of our history is clueless. It has an impact. The handicap is the fact that our owners have invested zero in the last decade
Liverpool’s revenue is about 25% more than ours or over 100 million a year. The difference is significant.
I don’t write off our history — it contributes to us having the 5th highest revenue in the EPL. Without our history, it would be lower.
I ‘ve spent the last couple of days hearing from Liverpool fans as to how greedy their owners are.
( Salah contract renewal). That from a club who won the EPL and UCL in the last couple of years. The only owners immune to the criticism would appear to be those that subsidize their clubs by 100 million per.
That’s not a defense of ENIC. They piss me off royally — because they run the club poorly in terms of converting that revenue to on-field success due to poor recruiting, development etc. I just accept that, like nearly all the other owners, these guys are running a business and they’re not going to bring us up to the revenue levels required to compete with the top 4 out of their own pocket. I doubt that new owners would either.
It would be pretty stupid to ask someone running a business to take on huge losses for the pleasure of their customers (us mugs) even if they can afford to.
Football isn’t a vanity project— owners will do the math as to what sustained on-field success will cost and what it is worth in terms of branding and for a future sale.