The other thing with this it doesnt tell the story of a season. I mean 2012/13 under AVB when we finished 5th and were totally dependent on Bale is above 84/5 when we finished 3rd and challenged for the title until about the last 6 games, or 86/7 when we a superb side to watch and finished 4th.
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Not sure i agree. Our performances are dreadful, Zagreb, Mura, Vitesse, Antwerp, Lask. Even a lot of the wins are just scratchy efforts on poor pitches. I'd probably take Europa but i'd rather finish 8th than end up in that conference thing again.
The team is doing it's best to finish 8th so fingers crossed
whats the point we wont win shit anyway
we cant even win a comp with potato farmers in it
we are embarrassing england every time we play in europe
we cant even win a comp with potato farmers in it
we are embarrassing england every time we play in europe
The Maris Piper stadiums got a ring to it! Perhaps that will help
fucking hell go to mura i bet theres a farm called hotspur there now
the day we played them is annual day in their yr called farmers plow spurs day
I’m a fan too and my mood for about 3 years now is the less I see of Spurs, the better.
always renew, baldy always says something to make them renew
half the time i think he is a sith lord
A heck of a lot didn't renew last year. The club had to go deep, deep into the so called waiting list..... Like 70,000 deep!
he can always pull and Woolwich and photoshop fans in
You’re so close to getting it !! You just need to complète your analysis. Success correlates with wealth and the (supposedly) wonderful days in the 80s we’re a time with FAR LESS wealth inequality. Then something extremely significant happened in the early 90s and then again multiple times since 2003: the creation of the Premier League and the introduction of owners motivated not by financial prudence but by sports washing.
It’s like so many of you only care about banter, constantly hoping that rival clubs will give you props or respect (clue: they won’t). Have you not been following the Chelsea news lately? Have you not internalised the lessons?
Chelsea completely skewed what was possible for the past 18 years.
Man City completely skewed what was possible for the past decade.
Manchester United have been far far wealthier for the past 3 decades.
Finishing any higher than 4th is only possible because of extreme mismanagement and incompetence on behalf of those three clubs COMBINED with unusually savvy or lucky dealings on our behalf.
Then throw in Woolwich and Liverpool who played 3 champions league finals in the first 6 years of ENIC ownership and have been significantly wealthier for nearly the whole premier league era…
Both Liverpool and Woolwich have been
- more prestigious
-wealthier
-more successful
Competitors for Spurs.
In the very early days of ENIC we had the Woolwich invincibles and Liverpool winning a Champions League.
I am not hating on Spurs or unambitious. I am stating FACTS about our situation which have a significant impact on our ability to break into that top 5. Every year we want to finish above 6th we rely on another club squandering a huge wealth OR reputational advantage… OR BOTH.
Facts.
To win a domestic trophy we have to rely on ALL FIVE clubs above us squandering a significant wealth or reputational advantage (or BOTH).
And to break that you need luck OR time.
That’s the reality.
We have had a decent amount of luck but sustained gains will now involve time and MORE luck.
The strategy to reduce the wealth gaps has been successful (you cannot argue with that) but in a world of Man City and Newcastle and Man Utd, we will not be able to ever compete because they are not playing the same game as us.
To pretend that there is a magic strategy that doesn’t involve us becoming richer or luckier or involve a lot of patience is DELUSIONAL THINKING.
John Thomas
so i don’t have to reply to you separately
You’re so close to getting it !! You just need to complète your analysis. Success correlates with wealth and the (supposedly) wonderful days in the 80s we’re a time with FAR LESS wealth inequality. Then something extremely significant happened in the early 90s and then again multiple times since 2003: the creation of the Premier League and the introduction of owners motivated not by financial prudence but by sports washing.
It’s like so many of you only care about banter, constantly hoping that rival clubs will give you props or respect (clue: they won’t). Have you not been following the Chelsea news lately? Have you not internalised the lessons?
Chelsea completely skewed what was possible for the past 18 years.
Man City completely skewed what was possible for the past decade.
Manchester United have been far far wealthier for the past 3 decades.
Finishing any higher than 4th is only possible because of extreme mismanagement and incompetence on behalf of those three clubs COMBINED with unusually savvy or lucky dealings on our behalf.
Then throw in Woolwich and Liverpool who played 3 champions league finals in the first 6 years of ENIC ownership and have been significantly wealthier for nearly the whole premier league era…
Both Liverpool and Woolwich have been
- more prestigious
-wealthier
-more successful
Competitors for Spurs.
In the very early days of ENIC we had the Woolwich invincibles and Liverpool winning a Champions League.
I am not hating on Spurs or unambitious. I am stating FACTS about our situation which have a significant impact on our ability to break into that top 5. Every year we want to finish above 6th we rely on another club squandering a huge wealth OR reputational advantage… OR BOTH.
Facts.
To win a domestic trophy we have to rely on ALL FIVE clubs above us squandering a significant wealth or reputational advantage (or BOTH).
And to break that you need luck OR time.
That’s the reality.
We have had a decent amount of luck but sustained gains will now involve time and MORE luck.
The strategy to reduce the wealth gaps has been successful (you cannot argue with that) but in a world of Man City and Newcastle and Man Utd, we will not be able to ever compete because they are not playing the same game as us.
To pretend that there is a magic strategy that doesn’t involve us becoming richer or luckier or involve a lot of patience is DELUSIONAL THINKING.
I posted elsewhere about how many times the double has been won since the premier league began.
Money talks.
Congratulations on making the boards most patronising, pompous post. You talk about wealth but i'm not saying mix it with City or Chelsea. Is anyone? I'll give you the Liverpool example. They knew they had a good manager and they backed him when he needed it. We knew we had a good manager and took him for granted, took the piss out of him and let the football side rot and the last 3 years is a direct result of that. We are now back where we were 21 years ago, an average to poor side with 2 good players who keep our league placing semi respectable.You’re so close to getting it !! You just need to complète your analysis. Success correlates with wealth and the (supposedly) wonderful days in the 80s we’re a time with FAR LESS wealth inequality. Then something extremely significant happened in the early 90s and then again multiple times since 2003: the creation of the Premier League and the introduction of owners motivated not by financial prudence but by sports washing.
It’s like so many of you only care about banter, constantly hoping that rival clubs will give you props or respect (clue: they won’t). Have you not been following the Chelsea news lately? Have you not internalised the lessons?
Chelsea completely skewed what was possible for the past 18 years.
Man City completely skewed what was possible for the past decade.
Manchester United have been far far wealthier for the past 3 decades.
Finishing any higher than 4th is only possible because of extreme mismanagement and incompetence on behalf of those three clubs COMBINED with unusually savvy or lucky dealings on our behalf.
Then throw in Woolwich and Liverpool who played 3 champions league finals in the first 6 years of ENIC ownership and have been significantly wealthier for nearly the whole premier league era…
Both Liverpool and Woolwich have been
- more prestigious
-wealthier
-more successful
Competitors for Spurs.
In the very early days of ENIC we had the Woolwich invincibles and Liverpool winning a Champions League.
I am not hating on Spurs or unambitious. I am stating FACTS about our situation which have a significant impact on our ability to break into that top 5. Every year we want to finish above 6th we rely on another club squandering a huge wealth OR reputational advantage… OR BOTH.
Facts.
To win a domestic trophy we have to rely on ALL FIVE clubs above us squandering a significant wealth or reputational advantage (or BOTH).
And to break that you need luck OR time.
That’s the reality.
We have had a decent amount of luck but sustained gains will now involve time and MORE luck.
The strategy to reduce the wealth gaps has been successful (you cannot argue with that) but in a world of Man City and Newcastle and Man Utd, we will not be able to ever compete because they are not playing the same game as us.
To pretend that there is a magic strategy that doesn’t involve us becoming richer or luckier or involve a lot of patience is DELUSIONAL THINKING.
While ours were motivated by greed and exploiting footballs global popularity....
Is that really any better?
Is that really something to be proud of?
People talking about mixing it with the best sides when we're currently facing 2 seasons in a row behind West Ham, a very reasonable possibility of finishing behind Wolves, and all with basically zero European football since the season began. And generally just dreadful performances in the cups. All whilst spunking huge amounts on managers, all so they can basically continually tell us how badly we're run and how much work has to be done, until they're sacked and repeat cycle.
Unfortunately , that statement will never sink into some peoples headsWhile ours were motivated by greed and exploiting footballs global popularity....
You just know not getting CL football will be the excuse not to spend in the summer. Spurs is basically ground hog day and has been for 2-3 decades Poch tenure aside.