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TheSpurEst said:
Why the fuck did we have to bottle it so bad against ManU.

We played well and they lacked clear cut chances - but we just gave their wold-class striker SOOOOO much room while our attackers were fucked up all the chances that were put on plate for them.

But well, basically Spurs in a nutshell for you...

With this extra 3 points our chances would be very significantly better. Even after miserably bottling it against Soton and Wolves. Agghh. Frustrating.

No fucking way we'll make it to top 4 now.
Only chance would be to win all games but Pool away, but we all know this will not happen.

From past 13 games Woolwich have won 10, lost 2 and drawn 1. So lost only 8 points from 39... 2,38 points per game.
Our best run was 9 unbeaten with 6 wins and 3 draws. Losing 6 points from 27 meaning 2,33 ppg - 4 games shorter, lower ppg and well and truly forgotten, while Scum run is ongoing.
Just for comparison in last 13 our return is 5 losses 1 draw and 7 wins - 1,7 ppg.
Their losses - Liverpool and ManCity; our losses Chelsea, ManC, WOLVES, SOUTHAMPTON, BURNLEY.
Sorry but the form and run is not even comparable.
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Everything is comparable.
And when you do compare things, there's not a lot in it.. 3 points and a home game against them.
I saw a few interesting bit when looking at the fixtures played / to play laid out like this.
Up to people to make their own conclusions of course.

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Edit: Here's another one in order of league positions last season.
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Mampi said:
Everything is comparable.
And when you do compare things, there's not a lot in it.. 3 points and a home game against them.
I saw a few interesting bit when looking at the fixtures played / to play laid out like this.
Up to people to make their own conclusions of course.

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Edit: Here's another one in order of league positions last season.
spurarsleagueorder.jpg
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Did you create that spreadsheet ?
 
SpurFromOz said:
Did you create that spreadsheet ?
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Yeh, one of many over the years.

I used to put more effort in to them - now I just chuck things together quickly.

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Here's another crude one given we're in the Top 4 thread.

And another comparing 6 teams.
Really for my own reference so might not be very pleasant to look at on here. But if you squint, you might get some information from it (bar chart on the right is average points per season).

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Mampi said:
Yeh, one of many over the years.

I used to put more effort in to them - now I just chuck things together quickly.

4th.jpg


Here's another crude one given we're in the Top 4 thread.

And another comparing 6 teams.
Really for my own reference so might not be very pleasant to look at on here. But if you squint, you might get some information from it (bar chart on the right is average points per season).

big6.jpg
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Respect bro.

👍
 
Mampi said:
Everything is comparable.
And when you do compare things, there's not a lot in it.. 3 points and a home game against them.
I saw a few interesting bit when looking at the fixtures played / to play laid out like this.
Up to people to make their own conclusions of course.

totars.jpg


Edit: Here's another one in order of league positions last season.
spurarsleagueorder.jpg
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Great post, awesome charts, dope stats, agree- mad respect.
 
We have to get 21 points in 8 matches.
Woolwich will get around 20-21 points in 9 matches, including losing to Chelsea, 2 points against United and WH.

Then, we 'll decide in NLD who gets top 4.
 
CroSpurs said:
We have to get 21 points in 8 matches.
Woolwich will get around 20-21 points in 9 matches, including losing to Chelsea, 2 points against United and WH.

Then, we 'll decide in NLD who gets top 4.
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That 20-21 total is not a given. They are two injuries away from Holden and Elneny at centre back in which case they be lucky to get 9 points
 
In our favour

we are creating chances and scoring goals, winning a few by a margin.
They don't seem to be.

I also would not want their run in if chasing top four.

They should win 3 of 4 home games, United aside.

But they have 6 away games; Us, Palace, Southampton, Chelsea, West Ham, Newcastle.

How many of them are Woolwich clear favourites for?

It wouldn't surprise me if they lost any number of those.
 
Worrying about how other teams do shouldn’t even be on our minds, the only thing we have to do now is beat what’s put in front of us. And at the end of the season we will see where we are at.
 
Zomb said:
That 20-21 total is not a given. They are two injuries away from Holden and Elneny at centre back in which case they be lucky to get 9 points
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How often are a teams 2 CB's out for the last 10 games of a season? When they have no other cups to play in?

You say they're 2 injuries away from that but we could lose any one of our 3 CB's and be in trouble. We could lose any one of our CM's and be in trouble. We could lose Kane and/or Son and be in trouble.
Our squad is paper thin which is why the last 4 games have seen the exact same starting 11.
 
Matt1882 said:
How often are a teams 2 CB's out for the last 10 games of a season? When they have no other cups to play in?

You say they're 2 injuries away from that but we could lose any one of our 3 CB's and be in trouble. We could lose any one of our CM's and be in trouble. We could lose Kane and/or Son and be in trouble.
Our squad is paper thin which is why the last 4 games have seen the exact same starting 11.
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Agree.
 
strangely enough me gooner mate is more nervous than myself... even with their form, even with our stuttering form, even with them having pole position... frankly id rather us be chasing, relying on other results, than "just having to win out" to claim it... some might say that's defeatist... i guess i still think we've not got the resilience and mental fortitude to hold others off.... and id rather have the underdog title...
 
StripiestPilot said:
I do worry that West Ham will not give a shit about their game against Woolwich and just roll over. The easiest games during this stretch of the season are always the ones where the opponent have nothing to play for. Top 4 is gone for West Ham and they won’t be relegated. EL is all they have now. It’s already happening to Brighton and Wolves now that their European ambition has fizzled out.

Moyes will happily throw the Woolwich game if it means they rest well for the EL and we don’t reach the CL.
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I don't see any prem managers "throwing" any game against any team. I have a lot of respect for Moyes.
 
Mampi said:
Yeh, one of many over the years.

I used to put more effort in to them - now I just chuck things together quickly.

4th.jpg


Here's another crude one given we're in the Top 4 thread.

And another comparing 6 teams.
Really for my own reference so might not be very pleasant to look at on here. But if you squint, you might get some information from it (bar chart on the right is average points per season).

big6.jpg
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Are you some kind of mathematical savant?
 
Spaniel said:
Are you some kind of mathematical savant?
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Certainly not.

Though my job is to create payroll software and have written hundreds of reports to support said software.

One of my clients at a previous job was actually Tottenham (plus a few other football clubs).
Spurs actually had to approach us asking for an extra digit to be allowed in the salary input field.
 
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The April weekend could be a turning point
Sat April 2: Man Utd v Leicester 17:30
Sun Apr 3: WHU v Everton 14:00
Spurs v Newcastle 16:30
Mon Apr 4: Palace v Goons

Palace had a great 4-0 victory v Everton in the cup on Sunday and and the game before they held City to a 0-0 draw. They have only lost to WHU, Chelsea and Liverpool this year.

PREMIER LEAGUESa 01Jan 2022Crystal Palace2 - 3West HamL
FA CUPSa 08Jan 2022Millwall1 - 2Crystal PalaceW
PREMIER LEAGUEFr 14Jan 2022Brighton1 - 1Crystal PalaceD
PREMIER LEAGUESu 23Jan 2022Crystal Palace1 - 3LiverpoolL
FA CUPSa 05Feb 2022Crystal Palace2 - 0HartlepoolW
PREMIER LEAGUEWe 09Feb 2022Norwich1 - 1Crystal PalaceD
PREMIER LEAGUESa 12Feb 2022Brentford0 - 0Crystal PalaceD
PREMIER LEAGUESa 19Feb 2022Crystal Palace0 - 1ChelseaL
PREMIER LEAGUEWe 23Feb 2022Watford1 - 4Crystal PalaceW
PREMIER LEAGUESa 26Feb 2022Crystal Palace1 - 1BurnleyD
FA CUPTu 01Mar 2022Crystal Palace2 - 1StokeW
PREMIER LEAGUESa 05Mar 2022Wolves0 - 2Crystal PalaceW
PREMIER LEAGUEMo 14Mar 2022Crystal Palace0 - 0Man CityD
FA CUPSu 20Mar 2022Crystal Palace4 - 0EvertonW
 
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Joshking5 said:
This weekend is massive, wish we were up first to be honest. United will beat Leicester then it’s pressure on again. Hope we turn up.
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This is the million dollar question isn't it will spurs turn up.
Hopefully the team can put a run of results together and take fourth place but yet they are just as likely to blow up and lose a few.
We will have to watch this space but I would imagine the others may trip up as well at least we hope.
 
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