Good points mate, but how are Sevilla and woolwich regarded now? Both in decline. Success is perceived differently now. I don’t make the rules, but most neutrals think we are much better than woolwich despite their recent trophy haul. Odd, isn’t it?
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Good points mate, but how are Sevilla and woolwich regarded now? Both in decline. Success is perceived differently now. I don’t make the rules, but most neutrals think we are much better than woolwich despite their recent trophy haul. Odd, isn’t it?
Well you won’t get get me on SC anymore thanks to what has to be one of the most weird and at the end slightly creepy individuals that I have come across in the spurs online world in A&C. Very strange individual.
I agree with every word of that. However as we all agree the game is now dominated and dictated by money, making the last 16 of the champions league is the minimum we should expect when we look at the latest Deloitte money list. We are an elite club and only when we reach the last 8 can people start to say we are over achieving
I couldn’t care less how we would be regarded, I would just kill to see us win the FA Cup or UEFA cup just once. I’ve done the whole the future thing, I bought into that back in 2004 but that future is now, this is what we talked about and we need to capiltise on that. This team will not last.
This is the thing, it's now considered small time to win the FA Cup and not finish in the top 4. Winning the Europa League is now tainted by the fact that champions league teams drop in to the competition when they fail, it's been horrifically devalued.
How have we been asset stripped? We’ve beaten two of those sides you mention in qualifying 1st in the toughest group. Don’t go all Gobbygonk on me now. You qualify and then you play two games of football against the opposition to progress. There are only 16 teams left and 4 of them(apart from us) are in our own league. We have a decent chance of progressing. And if we’d won the league cup last year and finished 8th we wouldn’t be playing Juventus in the last 16 of what is now the modern day European Cup and absolutely nobody would be taliking about Spurs. No way would 75,000 people be turning up to watch us play Bournemouth or whoever.
Look at United’s, Barcelona, Real and Bayern’s revenues and compare them to ours and tell me we are an elite club. The likes of City and Chelsea fall into that category as a result of their respective owner. The likes of Liverpool can not even considered that and only the new stadium bridges the gap between us and them.
In the context of the last 16 of the champions league we are where we should be. We are the 11th biggest club in terms of revenue so anything less would be an under achievement.
Where are you drawing your line on elite club status then. 7th?, 8th or what?
I was referencing the likes of Dortmund, A. Madrid and Monaco but I fully expect to see many of major players be at the likes of Real and Barca on the next 18-24 months. We saw this last time with the likes of Bale and Modric and Liverpool have lost all their best players in recent times despite being in the CL. If any tier 2 club has any semblance of succes in the CL then the elite come calling, we have seen time and after time. As for 75,000 not turning against Bournemouth, well we have been getting 60k plus crowds for such games. We got 75k for an mediocre Everton side.
And? As I said before we we are there for to make up the numbers. The elite status criteria is quite simple they are the clubs with the greatest capacity, in terms of resources, in terms of personnel and in terms of retention. They are the clubs that compete and achieve success consistently at the highest level. We are not one of those clubs and unless something fundamentally changes in the game we never will be.
Yeah I know. We’re suckers for punishment. Nonetheless you’re more likely (statistically) to see a Spurs victory at the hated Wembley, than a defeat. It is this feeble statistic that keeps me going. I like you Hood - maybe buy you a pint in the 100 yard long bar. I hope you like cheese.
Well that is progress you thought I was c**t a couple of months back.
Nah, apologies if I said that. You’ve conducted your arguments without the need for insults. If I said that I’m genuinely sorry.
Haha i jest, that was another poster, troll Magot cunt if I recall I think is just brilliant put down. I think that was the general feeling when I came on here, well the constant fouls suggested so.
I know that bloke.
Everything is about money to you, rather than the football.
Football is unpredictable, irregardless of money spent. Football is chaos. It isn't linear.
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Who is this fellow you speak of? Surely there can't be weirder Spurs posters than us here in the madhouse.
But aren't you one of those constantly saying we are overacheiving due to our lack of financial might compared to our rivals?
Aren't you one that says we ain't got the money to compete with Chavs, united and so on in the transfer market.
And now you say its me that thinks its all about money!!
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With the resources Poch currently has against The Manx’s clubs, Chavs etc it’s a minor miracle what he has achieved bearing in mind over the last two seasons we were the top team statistically
I know you don’t get a trophy for that unfortunately but it shows how good Poch is and how lucky we are to have him
In Burkenshaws day resources were much more even
Keith was a good manager
Poch is on the cusp of greatness
So not an absurd opinion after all