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MemphisWill said:
But Ange's 2nd season was the worst league season in 90 years at the club. You're trying to use the first season as cover, when we stumbled to 5th - we had a flying start in the first 10 matches and then pretty much cratered.

Ange's last 18 months, EL run aside, were the longest sustained period of league form in the club's history. It is really hard to overstate how utterly shit we have been...because Tottenham has never really been so utterly shit for so long.
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We took 59 points from the 38 games between the end of the post-Chelsea 9 man tailspin and the beginning of last season's injury crisis.

Not good form by any means, and a level at which we've sacked a number of managers, but we've been there or thereabouts frequently in recent years. Exactly 59 points in 2019-20.

And THEN the bottom really fell out and we took 19 points from Ange's last 26 league games (17 of the dreaded 22 losses) which he couldn't survive even with a European trophy and all of the excuses, and probably shouldn't have.

That three-part breakdown is a more logical way to look at the Ange era, imho.
 
ginola92 said:
Wouldn't have been a ridiculous take after 23/24 season people have really really short memories. Kudus isn’t suddenly less of a player because of 1 bad season at a mess of a club.
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But the same token he isn’t that great because of one season where he produced moments(his all round game was the same, selfish and trying to do to much) Wouldn’t be the first time a player gets overhyped by producing moments that people watch on the highlights. West Ham fans were starting to suss him out towards the end of that first year.
 
MemphisWill said:
Well if he doesn't have a 5th place finish, he won't have a job. Levy has demonstrated that for 2 decades.

I think 2 5th place finishes isn't far off Stumbling 5th+worst season in almost a century+2nd tier European trophy.
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Well Levy then is the clouds.

The league the last few seasons is changing. We don’t have 4-5 good clubs, we have 6-7 of them. Liverpool, City, Woolwich, Chelsea are getting joined by Newcastle and Villa who are maxing their PSR each season to build up as their owners are rich.

Top 4-5 will require big investment and probably an increase in the wage structure of the club. If Levy expects Frank or any manager to cheap his way to top 4 he is a fool.
 
ginola92 said:
Wouldn't have been a ridiculous take after 23/24 season people have really really short memories. Kudus isn’t suddenly less of a player because of 1 bad season at a mess of a club.
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For what it's worth, that 23/24 season was largely just a mirage of outperforming xG (plus some goals against shit Europa League opponents, and as we know from the Brennan Johnson thread, those don't count)

There was not a real difference in underlying quality between the two seasons. A lot of successful dribbles and not a lot of end product.
 
Tomo said:
Well Levy then is the clouds.

The league the last few seasons is changing. We don’t have 4-5 good clubs, we have 6-7 of them. Liverpool, City, Woolwich, Chelsea are getting joined by Newcastle and Villa who are maxing their PSR each season to build up as their owners are rich.

Top 4-5 will require big investment and probably an increase in the wage structure of the club. If Levy expects Frank or any manager to cheap his way to top 4 he is a fool.
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If Frank goes from 17th to 5th with this squad while playing Champions League in midweek he's a goddamn hero.
 
Look, in reality we need both and a top 6 club which isn't run by Levy would sign both.

Woolwich signing Eze, Zubimendi etc whilst finishing 2nd for a few seasons in a row, signing Rice for 100 million.

It's quite simple, their owners are going for it. Not recklessly, but they are putting the money up. Levy is the curse we just can't get rid of. Constantly sucking our spirits dry by doing far too little year in year out.

We just finished 17th. Yes we won a trophy but let's be honest, it's a one off. We just got into the CL.

Yet once again we are scraping the barrel in terms of ambition.

I used to get angry about it, but now I'm just detached.

I don't think I'll ever get into Spurs like I used to until Levy's gone. Only way is that Frank performs miracles and fosters something special with a squad and makes us challengers and a proper team again.
 
Aphex said:
Look, in reality we need both and a top 6 club which isn't run by Levy would sign both.

Woolwich signing Eze, Zubimendi etc whilst finishing 2nd for a few seasons in a row, signing Rice for 100 million.

It's quite simple, their owners are going for it. Not recklessly, but they are putting the money up. Levy is the curse we just can't get rid of. Constantly sucking our spirits dry by doing far too little year in year out.

We just finished 17th. Yes we won a trophy but let's be honest, it's a one off. We just got into the CL.

Yet once again we are scraping the barrel in terms of ambition.

I used to get angry about it, but now I'm just detached.

I don't think I'll ever get into Spurs like I used to until Levy's gone. Only way is that Frank performs miracles and fosters something special with a squad and makes us challengers and a proper team again.
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Last part is exactly what Levy is banking on. A manager who can have us outperforming on the cheap and is happy to work with what he's got.
 
Shadydan said:
He plays as an inside 10 in a 3-4-2-1 system, he isn't a natural left winger or a natural 10, we already have two 10's in our team

Also Eze on another level to Kudus, behave, the guy had purple patch in his last 3 months at Palace before that you had Palace fans saying that he was lazy and inconsistent, are we saying that a couple of months of good form is all it takes to clear other players or are we just perhaps over reacting a little to recency bias maybe?

RW is where we need an upgrade and cover most, not an inside 10 where we struggle to work out where his best position is in our team and tbh Kudus is more versatile anyway.

If Frank wants good players then he'll have no complaints about Kudus then.
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You know players and especially good ones can adapt and play slightly differently, it’s not that complicated. Is Arteta going to have to play exactly like Glasner at Palace. Players understand where the space is. It’s more natural than you think. It’s not pieces on a chess board.

I do agree a bit on Eze being inconsistent and going missing a bit in games he’s not perfect especially off the ball. But technically he’s miles better than kudus who is head down, raw still at 24 and lacking in football intelligence. We need quality over position in the final third right now.
 
Hulk said:
This notion AGAIN that Ange sacrificed the league for the Europa - fuck me lads let it go will ya!
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Postecoglou said that after the January transfer window closed he decided he would focus the team's attentions on winning the Europa League. Surely that means the league wasn't the priority from then onwards.

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We should probably save ourselves the time and hassle and just close this thread. We're not signing anyone good. Just more children and bargain bucket freebies.

We finished 17th last year, and we're not going to improve the squad? Yeah... we're fucked.

Then only reason we built the new stadium was to stroke Daniel Levy's ego. We were conned. Apparently the new ground was supposed to put us in a new financial stratosphere and give us more spending power. Did it fuck. Now we have to sell to buy despite having the lowest wage to turnover percentage in the division.

Highest paid chairman in the league? What a cunt.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Not really.

If he’s not finished top 5 and won a trophy after 2 seasons, he will have been objectively worse.

If it’s been 2 top 6 finishes, there is maybe a case that he’s building something solid that could be better but his first 2 seasons will have been worse.

Top 8 this season should and will have Frank in the hot seat. Especially if there is a good option available.
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Don't you think the Spurs fanbase will have realistic expectations after finishing 17th?



I would be more than pleased if we get the PL- and CL-titles.
 
SpaggyBoy said:
We should probably save ourselves the time and hassle and just close this thread. We're not signing anyone good. Just more children and bargain bucket freebies.

We finished 17th last year, and we're not going to improve the squad? Yeah... we're fucked.

Then only reason we built the new stadium was to stroke Daniel Levy's ego. We were conned. Apparently the new ground was supposed to put us in a new financial stratosphere and give us more spending power. Did it fuck. Now we have to sell to buy despite having the lowest wage to turnover percentage in the division.

Highest paid chairman in the league? What a cunt.
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Guy posting in transfer thread suggesting we close... the transfer thread lol
 
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