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Supporters The Y Word

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To be honest 1972 feels like 100 years ago.
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You only have to listen to the words of the chant go know it's coming from a good place:

"THE THING I LOVE MOST,
IS BEING A YID!
"


Would an anti Semite love being a YID??

The word is the word... If it's SUCH a problem, change YID to Jew... What they gonna do, ban the word JEW???

(Apologies to the Bee-Jews!)

'Y 'is the word
They think our love is just a growing pain
Why don't they understand, it's just a crying shame
Their lips are lying, only real is real
We stop the fight right now, we got to be what we feel...

'Y' is the word (is the word, is the word that you heard)
It's got a groove, it's got a meaning.

'Yid' is the time, is the place, is the motion
'Yid' is the way we are feeling!
I solve my problems and I see the light
We got a lovin' thing, we gotta feed it right...
There ain't no danger we can go too far
We start believing now that we can be who we are
Yid is the word is the word that you heard.... YID is the way I am feeling...

We take the pressure and we throw away
Conventionality belongs to yesterday...
There is a chance that we can make it so far
We start believing now but we can be who we are
'Y' is the word (is the word, is the word that you heard)
It's got a groove, it's got a meaning
YID is the time, is the place, is the motion
Yid is the way we are feeling
This is
the life of illusion
Wrapped up in trouble
Laced with confusion
What are we doing here?

We take the pressure and we throw away
Conventionality belongs to yesterday
There is a chance, we can make it so far
We start believing now that we can be who we are...

Yid is the word (is the word, is the word that you heard)
It's got a groove, it's got a meaning
YID is the time, is the place, is the motion
Yid is the way we are feeling
Alright now
Alright, I want everybody's help out there
I want you to put your hands together
Real easy now, like this
YID is the word, is the word
Now I want everybody to say it with us, okay?
We'll say it once
Listen to it
... let's do it now, alright
YID!
Aw, don't that make you feel good?
'Y' (It's the word, it's the word, it's the word that you heard)
Y (It's the word, it's the word, it's the word that you heard)
Yid, yid, yid, yid
'Y' (It's the word, it's the word, it's the word that you heard)
Now I want everybody to sing it with us, okay?
We'll do it once
Listen to it
Then we'll do it together, alright?
Now both sides together, let's do it now, alright
YID (It's the word, it's the word, it's the word that you heard)
Aw, don't that make you feel good man, yeah?

We start believing now that we can be who we are
'Y' is the word (is the word, is the word that you heard)
It's got a groove, it's got a meaning...
YID is the time, is the place, is the motion
YID is the way we are feeling
Y Is the word, is the word
Is the word

Thank you


Wow, that was a WAY longer song than I thought when I copied and pasted it....
Sorry for the essay!!!
 
The thing I love most....

Imagine them trying to ban that!!!
Jewish people singing the thing they love most about being a yid.
Non Jewish people singing the thing they love most about being a yok.
All kosher terms - pardon the expression. Not trying to culturally appropriate here.

I wonder how it would sound in the stadium & whether my favourite chant could be adapted to something along the lines of
“They tried to ban it but see what it did.
We now just say Yok cos we cannot say yid”

A nightmare to police that. 😂

Edit- Yok rhymes with cock. Only just realised that
:goonermong:
Surely one of you wordsmiths can reinvent the chant???
“They went and banned it
What a load of old cock
We used to sing “yid”
But now we sing Yok “

Or
They tried to ban it
And see what they got
We’re proud to be yids
But can only be Yoks

I’ll get my coat…
 
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From SC...

It has always been my belief, again as a practising observant Jew, that our chants of YID ARMY represents one of the most powerful and profound messages of anti-racism in the game.

It is one of the many reasons why i have such a strong affinity and connection with this club, in spite of the pain and disappointment supporting THFC has caused me (and all of us) over the years.

I have grown up in this country for most, though not all of my life. I cannot count the number of times I have been called a “fucking Jew” or a “Jew c**t”, the same goes for my wife and my kids. My son got a measure of this when he was called “Jew bastard” at only 8 years old. My 81 year old father has suffered this kind of abuse more and more just walking from his home to synagogue in the morning

And things have got worse, considerably worse over the last few years.

And yet here we have the fans of one of the most famous and well supported clubs in the world, putting their protective arms around their Jewish supporters in an act of solidarity, and what does the world declare…….stop it!!

In the opening game at the new stadium against Palace - i stumbled across a group of Orthodox Jews in the west stand concourse who were praying the evening service - out loud, not hiding and with yarmulkas on. I joined in, completely safe and completely comfortable. There was not one single comment or word of abuse. I dont believe there is any club in the country where a group of Jews would have dared do this, let alone could have conducted a 20 minute evening prayer service in the open without being self conscious or suffering some form of attack from at least one moron.

This is Tottenham Hotspur and this is what this clubs affinity and embrace of its Jewish fans means. It is something to be proud of and celebrated not expunged.

The most galling thing in all of this is that FAR FAR FAR more focus is being placed on our supporters, whose intention is unambiguously anti-racist than the fans of Chelsea and West Ham, whose intent with their Hitler and gas chamber songs are unambiguously racist. This is the mad topsy turvey world we live in.

How did our embrace of out Jewish fans become the bigger story than Chelsea and West Ham’s antisemitic decades long racist abuse.

In large part the answer is David Baddiel - as stated in previous posts, Baddiel is not bothered by YID ARMY chants because he is Jewish but because he is a Jewish Chelsea fan. Every time he hears us sing YID ARMY the contrast between THFC’s embrace of its Jewish fan base and the racist antisemitic nature of his fans become too stark for him to bear and he becomes embarrassed to be a chelsea fan - well good, because he should be embarrassed.

He blocked me on twitter when i told him that if he didn’t like raw fish he shouldnt order sushi and if he didn’t like antisemitism at football, he shouldn’t support Chelsea.

I will never stop singing YID ARMY. It is something about our precious club that should always be celebrated and embraced.
 



This is from 2 prominent Jewish fans and i think they speak quite eloquently about this.

What stands out to me here is the club statement using twice the phrase '...irrespective of context...' That expression scares me - how can we really take seriously the views of anyone who wants to judge the use of any words 'irrespective of context'? How can that even make sense? How can the phrase 'irrespective of context' even be useful anywhere ever? Isn't it basically saying 'ignoring all other relevant useful information about the scenario?' - why would you ever do that in any situation? Surely context can only possibly add to understanding? Scary times we live in. :(
 
Focusing on Baddiel (and his role) is pointless. It’s not productive and a distraction.

The Jewish Leadership Council basically take the same position as he does.
Presumably, they don’t all support Chelsea or have a book to flog.
 
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What stands out to me here is the club statement using twice the phrase '...irrespective of context...' That expression scares me - how can we really take seriously the views of anyone who wants to judge the use of any words 'irrespective of context'? How can that even make sense? How can the phrase 'irrespective of context' even be useful anywhere ever? Isn't it basically saying 'ignoring all other relevant useful information about the scenario?' - why would you ever do that in any situation? Surely context can only possibly add to understanding? Scary times we live in. :(
I also found the 'cultural appropriation' thing a bit creepy. How has that become a thing said seriously in public debate?
 
On the home from the Leeds game a few weeks back, me and my son, his mate and his dad passed a group of Leeds fans, one of whom sang ‘Spurs are on their way to Belsen!’. We were not singing anything to do with Yids. So they were ‘provoked’ purely by our scarves!
The notion that We are to blame for provoking those sensitive little fellows from Leeds, Chelsea and Spam into anti Semitic utterances is actually dangerous, like a woman being blamed for sexual assault because she wore a shirt skirt.
But let’s not get distracted - the club aren’t motivated by the moral or even practical questions - it’s all about sanitising the Spurs brand. If they win, we’ll be left with nothing.
And that’s the point isn’t it? We could be stopped from using the word in any form (chant, song etc) and yet truly disgusting songs and chants about concentration camps and the holocaust will go unchallenged
 
What stands out to me here is the club statement using twice the phrase '...irrespective of context...' That expression scares me - how can we really take seriously the views of anyone who wants to judge the use of any words 'irrespective of context'? How can that even make sense? How can the phrase 'irrespective of context' even be useful anywhere ever? Isn't it basically saying 'ignoring all other relevant useful information about the scenario?' - why would you ever do that in any situation? Surely context can only possibly add to understanding? Scary times we live in. :(
I saw that too; it means they will ignore all evidence that undermines their objective. Ironically, it’s a pretty fascistic thing to do.
 
I saw that too; it means they will ignore all evidence that undermines their objective. Ironically, it’s a pretty fascistic thing to do.

It's literally how the entire society works today.

With the quiet consensus of most issues in mainstream media and the behaviour of tech giants, we are only one strong man away from a fascist society(*).


(* and no, it's still fascism even if the "workers" own the "means of production")
 
Focusing on Baddiel (and his role) is pointless. It’s not productive and a distraction.

The Jewish Leadership Council basically take the same position as he does.
Presumably, they don’t all support Chelsea or have a book to flog.
Baddiel get lambasted by us because he engages in subterfuge, as pointed out in a post earlier on. It’s not productive to slag him off, but cathartic.
Understandably this is a decisive issue, but I wonder if the main difference between our Jewish supporters who have expressed positivity to ‘being a Yid’, and the Jewish leadership council, is that the former attend our matches.
 
My love of this club is at an all time low.

However the quality and intelligence of responses in this thread give me hope for the future, football after all is ultimately about the fans.
 
And that’s the point isn’t it? We could be stopped from using the word in any form (chant, song etc) and yet truly disgusting songs and chants about concentration camps and the holocaust will go unchallenged
That's the point in a nut shell - it's all about narrative and the fact that the media dont seem to want to call out antisemitism Bourne from the mouths of knuckle dragging fans of Chelsea, West ham and others. Yet spurs fans turning the Y word from a supposed racial slur to a positive collective response is somehow wrong and needs to be stopped. The sheer stupidity of this and the lack of common sense ....words fail me
 
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