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I think a lot of that is down to Levy. We have all played in youth teams, one I was in went toxic. We had around 20 players, I was playing full back and the guys on the bench seemed to want us to fuck up so they could go on the pitch.

Look at our squad, it’s fucking huge. We have Skipp and Sess returning as well. We could sell 5-10 players and still have enough around if the gaps are filled with hungry youth players. It’s the only good thing, sell a load to get cash and most importantly free wages so we can buy and restart.

It’s not our buying that has been the worst element, it’s our selling. Sissoko, Winks, Dier, Dele, Lamela shouldn’t be here, even Rose is still on our books till end of season. They should have been gone last season.

We are in a United situation a few years ago. Remember when they where buying quality but those players quickly turned to shit. We have that, Regulion, Bergwijn even PEH have declined since they joined. That is not ability, that is a toxic environment, poor coaching, poor leadership.

So that sits with Levy. Levy should never have hired the dinosaur Jose who has taken the club backwards and he should have cleared the deadwood instead of haggling for every penny. It’s fine to haggle the money for Kane but for others just no.
 
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These players know Tottenham is the best club they will ever play for. What they have been doing is sabotaging managers to get them sacked to prolong the inevitable rebuild.

Poch spoke of painful rebuild, few months later he was out of the job. Jose wanted a strong overhaul this summer, found himself sacked.

These players have been rejecting multiple offers from other clubs every window to stay at the club. They also leak stories to the press to paint the manager in negative light to force Levy's hand. They're tight knit, very loyal to one another and have a strong influence over the club hierachy. It going to be very difficult to remove them in one window.

Lloris spoke of them several times in post match conferences, Kane couple of times, even Højbjerg blamed them for lack of effort in one game.

Dele Alli and Harry Winks are the inofficial leaders of this group and are the most cancerous duo in the current squad
 
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I remember watching the Amazon all or nothing about us and thinking we were finished when I saw the player's reaction when they found out Jose was going to be manager.

They were all crapping themselves (Winks in particular stood out) because I think a lot of them feared that they'd get found out for the charlatans they are.

I can't be arsed to start a poll but how many players do you think we need to ship out in summer - 4/5/6 or even more.

For me it's got to be goodbye to Winks, Lamela, Sissoko and Vicinius at the very least.

What the hell ever happened to "wonder kids" Jack Clarke and Ryan Sessegnon?

Sometimes I reckon that some of our signings are just some kind of elaborate tax dodge.
 
Bazali said:
Dele has shown signs of a return to his excellent best
Gio needs to be shipped out this Summer along with a lot of others
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When has Dele showed any signs of returning to his best?
All I see is a lumbering one paced fool still trying flicks and Megs.
Some of our fanbase will except any old shit served up by players that don't give a fuck.
We don't even need to watch today to know we will play with no heart or desire and stroll around the pitch thinking this game is below them.
 
Something Kane alluded to in his Sky interview was that Jose expected the players to be professional and work on their fitness and condition in their own time.

Whether you agree with that approach or not, it clear shows there are far too many players at the club who are lazy, unprofessional, entitled and wage thieves.

These players have an amazing opportunity to live a life most can only dream of and cant be bothered to push themselves. They have no love for the club or the fans.

Instead they'd rather fart about on instagram and play playstation.
 
Wasn't Trippier the first to allude to what went on behind the scenes. Seems to be a lot of cliques that needs trimming. I wouldn't be surprised if certain individuals are suffering from being left out of things
 
Bazali said:
Don’t watch it then

Can’t be arsed explaining
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Stop talking like a fucking idiot.
People don't agree with what you say so you tell them not to watch the game.
Dele has been shit for the best part of the last 2 and a half years and if you doubt this you are deluded or part of his family.
 
100% there seems to be something rotten. I reckon a good few have really bad attitudes and without being in the changing room i'd guess at Alli, Bale, Winks and the 3 best mates Aurier, Sissoko and Ndombele. Even Toby has fallen out with 2 managers now. Massive clear out needed, just get rid of most of that lot whatever it takes.
 
VonnegutBusy said:
I think this is very clear and people chose to ignore it in the AoN doc. We have a broad split between players who I'd say are negative influence and those who are just poor (some are both).

Bad influence get rid:
- Winks, Dele, Sissoko, Aurier, Rose

Good characters but shit:
- Dier, Lamela, Sanchez, Davies

It's basically the players who were 2nd choice under Poch but only started to get a prominent role as we got desperate.

It's easy to say Levy should sell but are other clubs offering the same wages for our cast offs? Maybe they are making it difficult to shift them.

You can also imagine the impact this has on new signings, especially in the case of Ndombele falling in with those French wasters rather than a crowd that would elevate and inspire him.

Need to get these out over the next two windows. Rose is finally gone and hopefully the other 4 follow him out this summer. I think those in the second list are fine as squad players for another year and they wont fetch much money anyway in transfers.
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This

There are basically 2 camps of squad/fringe players.

Group 1 - Dele, Winks, Sissoko, Aurier, Rose. They're toxic group of players who think they're better than they are

Group 2 - Lamela, Lucas, Dier, Davies, Sanchez - They may average but they give their best and want the best for the club. Not a toxic group at all.
 
VonnegutBusy said:
I think this is very clear and people chose to ignore it in the AoN doc. We have a broad split between players who I'd say are negative influence and those who are just poor (some are both).

Bad influence get rid:
- Winks, Dele, Sissoko, Aurier, Rose

Good characters but shit:
- Dier, Lamela, Sanchez, Davies

It's basically the players who were 2nd choice under Poch but only started to get a prominent role as we got desperate.

It's easy to say Levy should sell but are other clubs offering the same wages for our cast offs? Maybe they are making it difficult to shift them.

You can also imagine the impact this has on new signings, especially in the case of Ndombele falling in with those French wasters rather than a crowd that would elevate and inspire him.

Need to get these out over the next two windows. Rose is finally gone and hopefully the other 4 follow him out this summer. I think those in the second list are fine as squad players for another year and they wont fetch much money anyway in transfers.
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Sissoko wouldn't have been foremost in my mind when thinking about shit-stirring cunts, but now that some of you have mentioned it, the wheels are turning here.

When Mourinho discovered Sissoko was one of the leaders in the dressing room, I must say I was bemused by it. What did it mean? One of the most vocal and most persuasive? Someone the others look up to because he's a tough guy? The best DJ?

Now that I think about it, Sissoko probably has been sulking over losing his place, hasn't he? He makes the France squad regularly. Maybe he thinks he brings something special to the table. When Lloris fired off those rockets in Zagreb, maybe Sissoko was one of the targets.

I think you are right about new signings. There's no one to take them aside and knock the rough edges off them. I always think about how Man Utd used to have a group of senior players who'd rip your head off if you were acting the maggot. As far as I can tell, we've only got Lloris for that, so he is pissing in the wind.
 
The strange part to me is why Mason has brought cunts like Winks and Dele back into the fold.

If he is best pals with Kane then he will know the ins and outs of that dressing room and will know who the problems are.

The only thing I can think of is that it was a directive from Levy to try and increase their sale value before the window. I think even Levy knows Sissoko is a lost cause so he's barely played.
 
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