You said he was 99% gone after the Bournemouth game. Make your mind up
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You said he was 99% gone after the Bournemouth game. Make your mind up
Why is this gargoyle looking, long ball bastard, PE teacher still here? He’s an utter disaster….
Football is dreadful, he has zero control or respect of the players and he can’t manage upwards and influencethe political apocalypse of the club hierarchy
Hope it’s toxic today and one of the faceless execs takes ownership of slaying this under qualified imposter
NB - I’m well aware the root cause of this mess is decades of mismanagement and strategy, and lack of investment from the owners and execs but that’s not a quick fix. This man needs to go now
Football is dreadful, he has zero control or respect of the players and he can’t manage upwards and influencethe political apocalypse of the club hierarchy
Hope it’s toxic today and one of the faceless execs takes ownership of slaying this under qualified imposter
NB - I’m well aware the root cause of this mess is decades of mismanagement and strategy, and lack of investment from the owners and execs but that’s not a quick fix. This man needs to go now
Frank is a decent man and doesn't deserve this tirade of criticism.
He hasn't had Solanke, Madison or Kulu so what do you expect. He wanted Eze and MGW and got Simons. He inherited Tel and Odobert and he never had a Kane or Son to turn to.
I guarantee that whoever gets the job now will not do better.
He hasn't had Solanke, Madison or Kulu so what do you expect. He wanted Eze and MGW and got Simons. He inherited Tel and Odobert and he never had a Kane or Son to turn to.
I guarantee that whoever gets the job now will not do better.
I stand by what I said regarding the current midfielders being far from good enough. A quality duo of central midfielders would improve our results and play significantly, even within the framework of Frank's football with all its constraints.
That being said, the said framework, the two pillars of which have been:
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Vicario is so fixated on shifting the ball towards wide right that he completely misses Bentancur being left wide open
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Bournemouth are utilizing a rather strict man to man press, and you can already see matchups taking shape here. Bournemouth's #8 will eventually have to make a decision between going with Palhinha versus committing to Bentancur, leaving one of the two open.
Horrendous
Matchups are once again taking shape, and Bentancur is once again the odd man
Too late now: Not only has Bentancur's matchup arrived, but the passing angle is also cut
It's Odobert's turn to suffer from some inexplicably bad tunnel vision
Well, not only is he the common denominator; but these sequences of players failing to spot such simple passes almost always follow the same pattern: Them trying to go wide or long. Instead of reacting in real time to how the each individual sequence develops, they act in a quite predetermined manner to end up with nearly identical outcomes across sequences.
Our football looks like a combination of 5-6 sequences on a loop: Not only boring, but also extremely predictable and easy to play against. The common complaint that players go through the motions makes a lot of sense from this perspective.
That being said, the said framework, the two pillars of which have been:
- Shifting the ball from one side to the other in a rather mechanical manner before trying to achieve a highly improbable breakthrough right alongside the touchline
- A strong emphasis on going long / direct, more often than not at the expense of forgoing much simpler passes
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Vicario is so fixated on shifting the ball towards wide right that he completely misses Bentancur being left wide open
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Bournemouth are utilizing a rather strict man to man press, and you can already see matchups taking shape here. Bournemouth's #8 will eventually have to make a decision between going with Palhinha versus committing to Bentancur, leaving one of the two open.
Horrendous
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This is not nearly as bad as the others; but Davies had much simpler options there.-------
Matchups are once again taking shape, and Bentancur is once again the odd man
Too late now: Not only has Bentancur's matchup arrived, but the passing angle is also cut
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It's Odobert's turn to suffer from some inexplicably bad tunnel vision
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What do all these have to do with Frank exactly? Isn't it about players that cannot spot a pass to save their lives?
Well, not only is he the common denominator; but these sequences of players failing to spot such simple passes almost always follow the same pattern: Them trying to go wide or long. Instead of reacting in real time to how the each individual sequence develops, they act in a quite predetermined manner to end up with nearly identical outcomes across sequences.
Our football looks like a combination of 5-6 sequences on a loop: Not only boring, but also extremely predictable and easy to play against. The common complaint that players go through the motions makes a lot of sense from this perspective.
Great postI stand by what I said regarding the current midfielders being far from good enough. A quality duo of central midfielders would improve our results and play significantly, even within the framework of Frank's football with all its constraints.
That being said, the said framework, the two pillars of which have been:
stifles our play considerably. It, among other things, leads to many avoidable turnovers while bringing out the worst in players who struggle with their passing vision and technique to begin with.
- Shifting the ball from one side to the other in a rather mechanical manner before trying to achieve a highly improbable breakthrough right alongside the touchline
- A strong emphasis on going long / direct, more often than not at the expense of forgoing much simpler passes
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Vicario is so fixated on shifting the ball towards wide right that he completely misses Bentancur being left wide open
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Bournemouth are utilizing a rather strict man to man press, and you can already see matchups taking shape here. Bournemouth's #8 will eventually have to make a decision between going with Palhinha versus committing to Bentancur, leaving one of the two open.
Horrendous
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This is not nearly as bad as the others; but Davies had much simpler options there.
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Matchups are once again taking shape, and Bentancur is once again the odd man
Too late now: Not only has Bentancur's matchup arrived, but the passing angle is also cut
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It's Odobert's turn to suffer from some inexplicably bad tunnel vision
--------------------What do all these have to do with Frank exactly? Isn't it about players that cannot spot a pass to save their lives?
Well, not only is he the common denominator; but these sequences of players failing to spot such simple passes almost always follow the same pattern: Them trying to go wide or long. Instead of reacting in real time to how the each individual sequence develops, they act in a quite predetermined manner to end up with nearly identical outcomes across sequences.
Our football looks like a combination of 5-6 sequences on a loop: Not only boring, but also extremely predictable and easy to play against. The common complaint that players go through the motions makes a lot of sense from this perspective.
Good point on Vic. I would play Austin, far more accomplished with his feet and looks v calm
Ha ha ha hahaha
Oooffff
How many protests you been to bro?
Austin is nowhere near as good as Vicario. That’s scary but it’s true.
If you really think about it, the appointment of Frank in the first place was all telling us the lack of footballing ambition these owners have. Along with all the other poor recruitment over the years.
That in itself is the single biggest factor why we are where we are.
It's not Frank's fault the job is far too big for him.
Replacing him is the correct decision but it doesn't change the fundamental problem, which is the attitude of the owners.
They're not focused on competing at the top which requires assembling a high quality squad fit for purpose.
They're focused on the wider entertainment streams and building a squad with young talent high resale potential and still trying to do it all on the cheap, relatively speaking.
Ie maximising profit across the board at the expense of the fans charging highest ticket prices in the land.
Nothing, fundamentally speaking, will change under this ownership.
That in itself is the single biggest factor why we are where we are.
It's not Frank's fault the job is far too big for him.
Replacing him is the correct decision but it doesn't change the fundamental problem, which is the attitude of the owners.
They're not focused on competing at the top which requires assembling a high quality squad fit for purpose.
They're focused on the wider entertainment streams and building a squad with young talent high resale potential and still trying to do it all on the cheap, relatively speaking.
Ie maximising profit across the board at the expense of the fans charging highest ticket prices in the land.
Nothing, fundamentally speaking, will change under this ownership.
Vic is an absolute liability on the whole but there’s no question he’s the best keeper we have.
Let's keep him then and not expect anything better..
Bold statement.
Thomas Frank has not got the players atm to be constesting with the top teams, but you really don't think it's possible to do better than we have?
Going game after game without producing chances, and no goals from open play over 10 games?
We are underachiveing big time.
Honestly, if someone offers you a cup of tea, is the first thing you do, lift it to eye level, turn it 360 degrees, then proceed to raise it further and check the bottom?
Perhaps his focus was elsewhere.
The next day someone in the TalkSports studio pulled the same prank on a colleague, making him drink from a rival's cup. It only stopped after 20 minutes when he was told - and I assume he even put the cup down in between .
The real question that should be asked, is who handed him the cup. THAT person should be fired. I would not be surprised if it was a Bournemouth staff/volunteer pulling a prank.
Just very sad to see that we let things like that influence our opinions. Must be a lot of perfect people on this forum.
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We had Madison, Kulusevski and Bissouma available for most of last season.
In addition to Bergval and Bentancur.
I do think Xavi is about to "get it" at Spurs. He's looked like he's getting more involved and brave in each of his last few games.
But our forward like is still beyond hamstrung
This.
This was a deliberate act by someone with semi-malicious intent..
And our fans have done exact what the perpetrator wanted, reacted negatively to Frank.
They want to humiliate him. Us. They did it.
Amazing that this club which just won the Europa last season, is having quite a fair number of players looking to leave, if there are some truths to the rumours. All because of the incompetence of Frank.
Those same players were quite content to finish 17th last season so they can shut the fuck up and do their talking on the pitch.
Frank is doing badly but the players need to look at themselves, but most importantly our board needs to wake the fuck up.
The whole club is a mess, and it has been for years now. Frank is the current scapegoat. He'll be replaced but not much will change until the root causes of our issues are fixed.
Matt Law is a wanker and won’t lose any opportunity to stick the knife in.
His sources could be in his head or a Woolwich fan stood on The High Road.
I’d put very little credence in anything he writes about Spurs,
Yeah it's a lazy hall pass for Frank whenever it gets said oh it's because he's missing maddison, kulu and solanke.
As if the negative tripe is because of 3 players.
The thought that no other manger could at least put together a plan to get decent xg figures out of muani, richarlison, xavi, Tel, odobert, porro, Spence and bergvall .
Spence actually a good user case, 2 goals 3 assists last season. Does he look like he'll get that under Frank? Be lucky to get one assist