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Pretty pleased with our league position. We know we're shit at holding onto leads in the table. Maybe we'll be better at battling back from behind?
 
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Is it wrong of me to find this hilarious..

@ RickyTFC RickyTFC what were you doing at goodison?
 
fk me, a lengthy break after we've won! wonders never cease.

hugo was superb last night, saving us yet again. easily the best keeper in the league.
 
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Newcastle United host Tottenham Hotspur at St. James' Park on Wednesday 12th February (KO 19:45) in the 26th Round of matches of the 2013-14 Premier League.

Newcastle come into the match in 8th place in the Table on 37 points with Spurs in 5th place on 47 points. This will be the 152nd time the two clubs have met.

The first meeting came in the old second round (today's fourth round) of the FA Cup in February 1905 with Newcastle drawing 1-1 at White Hart Lane before winning the replay at St James' Park 4-0. To date, the clubs have met 9 times in the FA Cup.

The clubs met for the first time in the Football League in November 1909 in the First Division with Newcastle winning 1-0 at St James' Park and completing the 'double' over Spurs with a 4-0 win at White Hart Lane in March 1910.

Tottenham's first win over Newcastle came in a First Division match at White Hart Lane in November 1912 with Jimmy Cantrell scoring the only goal of the match.

There were further meetings in the First Division up to season 1933-34 with honours generally pretty even.

An FA Cup 4th round match in January 1935 was won 2-0 by Spurs at White Hart Lane with George Hunt (Spurs' record goalscorer until Bobby Smith) scoring both goals.

The next 12 meetings between the clubs came in the Second Division of the Football League either side of World War Two from 1935-36 to 1947-48. These dozen matches were the only League games contested between Spurs and Newcastle outside the Top Flight of English Football.

The 1950-51 season saw Spurs win their first Football League Championship and in the process they did the 'double' over Newcastle winning 7-0 at home and 1-0 away. The 70,336 spectators at White Hart Lane for that emphatic 7-0 win were the largest crowd at any Spurs v Newcastle fixture in history.

Spurs beat Newcastle United in the 1952 Charity Shield 2-1 at White Hart Lane with Les Bennett and Peter 'Spud' Murphy scoring the goals which won the silverware.

The first Football League Cup meeting came in the Semi-Finals in January 1976 with John Pratt scoring the winning goal at White Hart Lane in the first leg but Newcastle winning 3-1 at St James' Park despite a Don McAllister goal to advance to the Wembley Final.

Newcastle United, along with West Ham United, were the first clubs to be promoted to the Premier League for the 1993-94 season and Spurs won the first match against Newcastle in the competition 1-0 away at St James' Park with a Teddy Sheringham goal. The Magpies had their revenge at White Hart Lane in December with a 2-1 win.

An FA Cup Semi-Final at Old Trafford in April 1999 was won 2-0 by Newcastle after extra time.

Newcastle lost their Premier League status at the end of the 2008-09 season but won promotion at the first attempt managed by former Spurs player and assistant manager Chris Hughton. Hughton was sacked under contraversial circumstances in December 2010 and Alan Pardew was appointed as Newcastle's new manager.

The fixture at St. James' Park last in October 2011 resulted in a 2-2 draw. Rafael van der Vaart opened the scoring from the penalty spot after 40 minutes. Demba Ba pulled Newcastle level three minutes into the second half but Jermain Defoe's 68th minute goal looked like securing all three points. Substitute Shola Ameobi scored a late equaliser for Newcastle. The reverse fixture at White Hart Lane in February 2012 resulted in a comprehensive 5-0 win for Spurs with goals from Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Louis Saha (2), Niko Kranjcar and Emmanuel Adebayor.

The opening match of the 2012-13 season at St James' Park resulted in a 2-1 win for Newcastle. Demba Ba put United ahead after 54 minutes with Jermain Defoe equalising for Spurs after 76 minutes. Ben Arfa was fouled by Aaron Lennon and he scored from the penalty spot for the winner on 80 minutes.

Spurs won their home League game in February 2013 2-1 with two goals from Gareth Bale, the first coming after 5 minutes from a free-kick and the second after 78 minutes. Yoan Gouffran had levelled things for Newcastle mid-way through the first half.

Newcastle United won the Premier League game in November 2013 at White Hart Lane 1-0 with Loic Remy's 13th minute goal proving to be the match winner. Tim Krul made a string of outstanding saves to keep Tottenham from scoring.

Tottenham Hotspur have won 63 of the 151 matches played so far with Newcastle United winning 56 and the remaining 32 games drawn.


Ossie Ardiles (Spurs player & manager, Newcastle manager)
Sebastien Bassong
Ted Birnie
Kevin Bond (Assistant manager at both clubs)
Garry Brady
Ivor Broadis
Keith Burkinshaw (Spurs manager, Newcastle coach)
Sol Campbell
Stephen Carr

Jesse Carver (Newcastle player, Spurs coach)
Ray Clarke
Les Ferdinand
John Fleming
Ruel Fox
Tony Galvin (Spurs player, Newcastle asst. manager)
Peter Garland
Paul Gascoigne
David Ginola

Bert Gosnell
Chris Hughton (Spurs player & asst. manager, Newcastle manager)
Jim Iley
Jermaine Jenas
John McTavish
Peter McWilliam (Newcastle player, Spurs manager)
Paul Moran
Taffy O'Callaghan
Alan Pardew (Spurs loanee, Newcastle manager)
Scott Parker
Wayne Routledge
Louis Saha
Kevin Scott
Mark Stimpson

Allan Taylor
Archie Turner
Chris Waddle
Jonathan Woodgate

Charlie Woods (Chief scout with both clubs)

 
Absolutely, I meant from a pundits view - whatever happens, everyone should be behind the team. I'm just happy that we're not being bigged up by pundits to be pushing for the title or anything, Liverpool are the media darlings after this weekend but the week before they drew to West Brom. It can all change in a weekend.

The game by game is my own opinion - I don't really think we'll finish top 4, I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. Celebrate every win, every loss shrug the shoulders and wait for the next 90 mins.

Think Newcastle are there to be beaten, hopefully see us start well and not wait for the second half - 3-1 spurs.
 
Pauli's a lot of things but playmaker is not one of them...

Oh please, remember that game (can't remember which one now, but still under AVB) where Paulinho did get to play #10 behind Soldado? He picked out some really beautiful passes that game. He could play that part for sure.

EDIT: Just as recent as against Stoke - look at the little flicks he was up to! Come on!
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Does anyone know what the situ is with Dembele?

Think Capoue was looking a little sharper today and if Kaboul can stay fit that might just shore up the defence.
 
Feel for Dawson, he has been a great servant but I feel Verts, Kaboul and Chriches are better footballers than him, same with Lennon he can make a great impact sub but I feel they are not first 11 any more not if we are trying to get top four. Capoue looked much better and with Bentaleb pushed forward I thought the midfield was more balanced. I get the feeling Tim will use our beast (strong, quick players) for the hard games to come such as the Chavs and the scum. A team with Capoue, Sandro, Bentaleb, Paulinho and Demebele will be hard to break down.
He has been, and still has something to offer us, but he shouldn't be captain (i.e. first name on the team sheet), he should be played on a form basis, and he hasn't been in form.

We have 3 very good, cultured, ball-playing centre backs - I don't see how Dawson can compete when all fit to be honest.
 
'Spurs fan, in peace'!!
Honestly, if I'd been dropped onto this site for the very first time this morning, I'd have a hard time working out if we'd won or lost yesterday!!!

It's Monday, and Spurs won on the same weekend that ArseAnal got a battering!!

It's not often we can 'revel' in such outcomes.... so enjoy it while it lasts.... 'cos it may not happen again for a while!! (unless/until WE beat THEM!)
 
I would seriously consider starting Chadli and Townsend for this - Lennon has been pretty anonymous recently and Lamela has obviously been deported... Chadli will track back and help Rose, he's decent in the air and can put a good cross in as well.

Something like this:

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Obviously won't happen and Bentaleb will start - I'm not saying he isn't playing well enough; he's a tidy player and he definitely has an engine, but I don't think just sticking him in blindly as the first name on the sheet every game is necessarily helping the team at the moment.

We've got to come out of the blocks faster too, it's concerning that Tim needs to give a half time bollocking to get the lads firing when they should be at it from the start.

Tim will fit Paulinho, Dembele and Bentaleb into a first XI always
 
Potential being the operative word. Potential isn't a guarantor. I've been thinking about this a lot lately and it could just be that this crop of players just don't go well together, or maybe need Modric stye player to make them tick. Seems strange that both AVB and Weasel seem to be having some of the same problems. It will be interesting to see if LvG has those problems as well.

Some of our players clearly have alot of talent, Eriksen, Paulinho, Chirches look as individuals shit hot, but as you say we are not operating as a team. It might be the management but I think the fundermental reason is the fact we have players coming and going all the time, if you look at when Chelsea and Man City many seasons ago bought 5-6 players the following season they looked awful, a bunch of indivdual who looked like strangers, it took Man City a good two seasons to really get their stars playing as a unit. I am not saying we are as strong as Man City, but we do have one of the strongest squads on paper in the league. If we buy another striker and maybe another defender I can't really see us needing to strengthen much more, we need stability more than anything else.
 
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