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These people keep getting work because they have extensive CVs stretching back decades and with the average managerial job now being well under eighteen months (I think it may actually be under a year across the top four divisions) boards are likely to plump for experience rather than trying anything new, even if that experience is consistently fucking up. Although even Pardew can say he's managed a club in an FA Cup final. Probably unpopular to say on here, and he did give us some good times, but I class Harry Redknapp in this category too. He has an extensive list of ruined clubs behind him.

Allardyce does always seem to steady whichever sinking ship he's captain of that season, but it's notable that he is widely loathed by the fanbase at the same time. At every single club. Him being booted out of the England job so quickly was one of the only good decisions the FA has ever made. His salty, salty tears about the injustice of being fired in that Impossible Job documentary that aired during the World Cup was glorious. I bet the guy reckons England would have won the tournament if he'd been in charge, n'all.

I think Neil Warnock is one of the biggest cunts in football but he did get Cardiff (a club I hate - due to the shirt colour change thing, I've gone into it before) promoted at a canter at least. But I so hope they're headed straight down. Think this is one wish that may come true.

It's interesting how Marco Silva, who was being touted as the new huge force in management, is now teetering dangerously close to becoming one of these journeymen. So early on in his career n'all. If Everton doesn't work out for him he's in trouble.
 
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JohnH said:
Simon Jordan is no fan of Steven McLaren or QPR -

“I don’t dislike McClaren, but I think he’s a busted flush of a manager… if he ever was a flush.

“I feel that QPR putting him in charge of the club, at a time where they were in a difficult situation of their own making, illustrates the fundamental lack of understanding these owners have about the mechanics of football. When you look at QPR’s position, they have a Financial Fair sanction of £42million, which also prevents them signing any players this season. The scale of the financial mismanagement of QPR is staggering.
They have had Flavio Briatore, Bernie Ecclestone, Lakshmi Mittal and Tony Fernandes sitting in the board room, who have presided over the meltdown of a football club."
And, they have now brought in a manager who is presiding over the demise of a team – you don’t just get beat 7-1 by chance, you get beat 7-1 because you’re in poor fettle from top to bottom and you don’t then compound that by getting beat 3-0 at home by a very poor Bristol City side.
I don’t want to be over sensationalistic, but you look at some of the management appointments they have made and the transfers that have gone on…
I look at Harry Redknapp in the transfer window of 2013 – I would know more than to let Harry Redknapp preside over my transfer dealings autonomously than I would let a syphilitic nutter run around my brothel if I was a brothel keeper.
The owners have spent £80m, albeit of their own money, but the consequences of this are that the club can’t sign any players this season.
I’m staggered to think this could be allowed to happen on the watch of people who purport to have the best interest of the club in mind.
And then to bring in a manager like McClaren, whose work at forest and Newcastle was nothing short of a joke.
I know he did well at FC Twente, I know back in the day he did well as a coach and I know he thinks he’s the best coach god ever put breath into.
But QPR is a club that deserves far more than it’s got, it doesn’t deserve group of very well-heeled and financially viable people to put it in such a situation where the future of the cub and the division it plays in is in real jeopardy, even three games into the season.
I think Tony Fernandes should have spent less time Tweeting and more time running his business, , maybe then QPR would not be suffering in the way they are – and they are suffering and they will continue to suffer. I don’t think they’ve got any opportunity to change it.
And I don’t believe McClaren is the right man to do it.
They should have stuck with Neil Warnock in 2014 (sic – 2012) – he’s sensible and he understands the mechanics of how football really works, rather of these ridiculous appointments like Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, who were style of substance.
The QPR fans deserve better than people who have the prolificacy to spend their own money in abandon but leave the club in the condition it is in now.”

‘Steve McClaren is a busted flush - the mismanagement of QPR is staggering’


Bloody hell don't hold back!! :dierno:
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Simon Jordan's the most interesting pundit on Talkshite by a country mile. He's opinionated, and he's also run a club, so has alot of credibility.

The worst has got to be Dean Saunders. Really annoying voice too.
 
Phil Brown. Another failure, yet seems to have now managed nearly every lower league club. Great tan though.

Nigel Adkins, had a good run at Southampton, the rest of his career is littered with failure.
 
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Too soon
 
Marco Silva, ok he's not useless but overrated my word.
He's barley even managed a whole season of games and already he's the first manager in the prem to concede 6+ goals at home with 3 DIFFERENT CLUBS!
 
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Young managers don't seem to get a fair crack of the whip these days, one bad run and they all go running for the old boys club. It seems like once you get in that select group of managers you have a job for life somewhere.

I remember Grazioli at Barnet, was happy enough working with the youth team, jumped in and helped when Martin Allen went on one of his burtons. Had a good run, then had Lawrie fucking Sanchez thrown in above him, eventually replacing and removing him completely from the game of football.
 
QPRs problems lie deeper.
They have Les Ferdinand behind the scenes. Member of the Redknapp cabal. What is he director of footbal?
Fernandes fucked that club when he gave the reins to first Mark Hughes and then Redknapp & that lot.
Can’t sign anyone in January due to FFP, haven’t signed anyone yet. £17m fine.

Fernandes was gullible to say the least. Some great ideas, but mugged off by agents etc. To think he’s a spammer and wanted to buy them. He cunted off Sullivan, which stil rings true as they still haven’t built a new training ground, are in Europe and have been through more managers.

Hughes and Redknapp signed shit over hill players for stupid sums and paid silly wages.(Redknapp mainly on frees or loans but still added to their massive wage bill)
Samba, Diakite, Remy, Park, Granero, Ferdinand, Ryan fucking Nelsen Cesar, caulker, Sandro (overpaid and paid £50k a week for a once decent player who couldn’t stay fit, and after and injury, ironically at QPR, wasn’t the same player.....and messed up his visa . Had to leave and apply for a new came back and they were Championship fodder)
 
imitationleather said:
These people keep getting work because they have extensive CVs stretching back decades and with the average managerial job now being well under eighteen months (I think it may actually be under a year across the top four divisions) boards are likely to plump for experience rather than trying anything new, even if that experience is consistently fucking up. Although even Pardew can say he's managed a club in an FA Cup final. Probably unpopular to say on here, and he did give us some good times, but I class Harry Redknapp in this category too. He has an extensive list of ruined clubs behind him.

Allardyce does always seem to steady whichever sinking ship he's captain of that season, but it's notable that he is widely loathed by the fanbase at the same time. At every single club. Him being booted out of the England job so quickly was one of the only good decisions the FA has ever made. His salty, salty tears about the injustice of being fired in that Impossible Job documentary that aired during the World Cup was glorious. I bet the guy reckons England would have won the tournament if he'd been in charge, n'all.

I think Neil Warnock is one of the biggest cunts in football but he did get Cardiff (a club I hate - due to the shirt colour change thing, I've gone into it before) promoted at a canter at least. But I so hope they're headed straight down. Think this is one wish that may come true.

It's interesting how Marco Silva, who was being touted as the new huge force in management, is now teetering dangerously close to becoming one of these journeymen. So early on in his career n'all. If Everton doesn't work out for him he's in trouble.
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Agree with alot of that, disagree re Silva. I think he's very good. He's also a complete bastard who'll only be interested in doing a decent job for you as long as he doesnt think there's a better one around the corner. I think he'll do a good job for Everton until a better opportunity comes along. Maybe he'll do a couple of years there. The Chavs job comes up every season or so. Goons may well have Dick for a couple of seasons. Manure may dispense with the Special One. Not saying Silva will get one of those, but imo that's how he's thinking.
 
White Van Jan said:
Agree with alot of that, disagree re Silva. I think he's very good. He's also a complete bastard who'll only be interested in doing a decent job for you as long as he doesnt think there's a better one around the corner. I think he'll do a good job for Everton until a better opportunity comes along. Maybe he'll do a couple of years there. The Chavs job comes up every season or so. Goons may well have Dick for a couple of seasons. Manure may dispense with the Special One. Not saying Silva will get one of those, but imo that's how he's thinking.
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You may be right, but if so he's playing with fire with that attitude. I think it's going to take a couple of extremely rough seasons for Man Utd or Woolwich (or Everton stunning everyone and becoming a consistent top four force) before they go for Silva. They're still going to be aiming for higher tier managers for a while yet. Managers who have been in the Champions League, at least. Moyes at Man Utd was an outlier and motivated by Ferguson and a delusion by their fans that they were different from other clubs and were going to recruit another Scottish guy who would be at the team for over twenty years. But Ferguson no longer has the say he once did and the fanbase is itching for success at all costs now, hence the Zidane rumours. I would bet all the hair on my head that Zidane is going nowhere near that club, though.

I guess managers who have no long-standing link to the club they're managing can't be blamed for looking for where their next step may be. Especially when the owner is likely to boot them out soon or sell up to some other load of billionaires who want one of their mates in instead. Pochettino was probably planning where his future laid after Tottenham before he became so embedded within the the team, and he himself reckons that during his first season he was one match away from being fired. Things could have been very different.
 
Hotspurio said:
Bit of an odd one but that bald fella Brian McDermott at Reading was pretty terrible
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Wasn't he more of a case of:

- Coach promoted off the back of a sacking mid-season.
- Did a good enough job of it to get a run at the job (I swear he either saved them from relegation or got them promoted - Can't think which.).
- Following season, not so good.
- Sacked.

One of my best mates is Reading... They were generally supportive of him.


It's the shit old-boys club journeymen getting rich off the back of repeated failure (& the cheque-book managers) that I take issue with.

...Anyone else just needs to find their level.
 
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